Posted on 03/31/2011 1:56:49 PM PDT by Jean S
Indeed. Judges are to derive conclusion from an original set of legislations to reconcile. They are not supposed to be the originators or suers of such originations but subserviant to their existence or at the most recommand legislations for reconciliations.
However they are not the legislators and executives who should send for execution of said legislations by fiat threat of civil war. These would be a coup d’etat or threats meriting removal.
As I understand it she is ruling that they violated Senate rules when they passed the bill. First of all, they didn’t violate the rules and secondly they write the rules and self-determine if the rules were broken.
A county judge has authority to overturn state laws?
We need to elect some Libertarians I am just worn out with Republicans.
Walker should go Andrew Jackson on her - “John Marshall has made his decision: now let him enforce it!”
I disagree. The Judge needs to be removed through whatever legal process provides for removal, because she is unfit to be a judge. However, until overturned on appeal the order stands and should be followed. Your alternative is little different than suggesting that the governor run to Illinois and issue his executive orders from there so he is out of the jurisdiction of the court. Or that we can lambast 0bama for ignoring federal court rulings on 0bamacare, but that this judge’s orders should be ignored.
Whether we like it or not, the Rule of Law cuts both ways. You can’t say you are for it and then ignore it.
Oh good Lord.
I wish the various bloviators on this thread would EDUCATE themselves about what’s going on BEFORE posting personal attacks on the Governor.
The basis of the Democrat request for injunction was that the legislative meeting during which the bill was passed violates the state’s Open Meetings law. Here’s the relevant statute:
“Public notice of every meeting of a governmental body shall be given at least 24 hours prior to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which case shorter notice may be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than 2 hours in advance of the meeting.”
The Republicans gave 2 hours notice, stating that it was “impossible or impractical” to give 24 hours notice to the Dems hiding in IL. The Democrats disagree.
The injunction against the law being put into effect simply says that the state cannot implement the collective bargaining law until the decision about the Open Meetings law is made. This is not some huge victory for the Dems. It’s common practice — don’t implement a law until we’re sure that the law itself is legal.
Also, keep in mind the political realities in the state of Wisconsin. Half the population (admittedly, centered in Madison and Milwaukee) is as liberal as they come — think Boston or San Francisco liberal. The conservative half is widely dispersed through the rest of the state, which is quite rural. The Governor has done a hell of a job thus far and will continue to do so. Don’t insult the man personally because he doesn’t plow through every little bump.
Walker is nuts to let a County Judge overide the law passed by both houses of the WI legislature. She has no jurisdiction over the soveriegn state of Wisconsin.
Meanwhile the US Congress “deems the budget to have passed” and so claims to have passed a budget though no budget has been passed.
You’re right. Counties are considered creatures of the State.
No, Governor Walker is going to come out of this looking like the only *sane* one. The WI Attorney General has already appealed to the WI supreme court on the jurisdiction grounds. People up here don't really like demagogues. One of the biggest complaints I heard early in the process was that Gov. Walker appeared to be 'rushing it through,' instead of taking a slow, measured approach to things. I suspect he heard that criticism too.
This information is not in the other article. As a Wisconsin resident I consider this updated info extremely important. Do you live in Wisconsin?
Well, the only thing about that is that counties, in many states, are defined so as to be administrative subdivisions of the state, in other words, they ARE the state. And as in the Federal government the lowliest US District Court judge can issue injunctions on anything, subject to appeal, so this rich can do the same on state matters. Makes little sense to me.
Knee-jerk emotional outbursts on anonymous internet blogs is my outlet - I don't want to think anything through - I just want to be angry all the time and wallow in despair to further my sense of helplessness and validate my victimhood.
Sheesh, now I have to go beat my spouse for a while...
So, we see once again a liberal judge making up law to win one for their tyranny. And, we will sit back and accuse those who have been on the front line of cowardice. And we will sit back and complain about how unfair it is. And, we will sit back and come up with ideas that others can do to push the issue. And we will sit back. When will we tire of sitting back while these tyrants steal our freedom and future from our children?
Of course I will. I am a keyboard kommando.
LOL I’m just messing with you. Do whatever you want.
And obamacare continues to march forward, intact.
I think Walker would be nuts to dismiss a judge’s ruling, no matter how absurd it is, 4 days before perhaps the most important Supreme Court election in WI history.
If the lib wins Tuesday, then the Senate can reconvene, give 24 hour warning, and pass the law again. If the conservative incumbent wins, then this judge’s ruling is moot.
Its time for Walker to ignore the little girl county judge and proceed with implementation.
Then send the National Guard to her chambers and arrest her for obstructing official state business.
To Hades with this “judge”.
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