[shibumi]

"I had said from the outset of the Iraq war that bush was fighting a proxy war for saudi arabia against iran. People thought I was nuts."

I have quoted the contents of the article posted above time and time again. I have become intimately familiar with people thinking that I'm nuts.

One of the biggest problems we face is getting people to understand that the enemy does not see things the way we do - AND - that they are playing by a whole different set of rules.

[daisy mae for the usa]

I ran across that same article (see post #57) and have posted it three times on different threads here at FR and got a similar response. I think the extent of the muslim connection is hard for most to accept. Maybe this thread will help.