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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. ... Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.


13 posted on 03/29/2011 7:18:37 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

“A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.”

I bet you do not have a source for that “fact.”


26 posted on 03/29/2011 7:28:54 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: crz

Again, horsesh*t! There was no such travel ban. I’ve posted the evidence of that numerous times here at FR. Please look it up. Stop perpetuating this rumor.

It was very easy for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981. Pakistan was issuing 30-day visas at the airports upon arrival.


32 posted on 03/29/2011 7:41:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: crz

Well stated, thanks.


36 posted on 03/29/2011 7:51:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: crz
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

The "don't travel" list is published by the State Department as a precaution for U.S. citizens traveling to specified countries. It is not a prohibition against traveling to those countries. The traveler assumes his/her own risk if he/she travels there after being warned not to. The U.S. does not have agents at the Pakistani border confiscating passports of U.S. citizens trying to enter that country. That would be absurd.

The U.S. government cannot tell you where you can and cannot go on its passport. It is up to the countries you are visiting to give permission, issue visas, define terms of stay, or deny entry. If Pakistan says you can't enter on a U.S. passport, that is up to them.

As I understand it, the U.S. cannot prevent people from traveling to other countries using its passport. Indeed, the U.S. passport is a request by the U.S. State Department to allow passage to the bearer of the passport.

The country you are traveling to, in this case, Pakistan, is the one that allows or denies entry.

If someone attempted to enter Pakistan (even at that time) with a U.S. passport, the U.S. State Department could do nothing, other than say, "we warned you not to go there." There is nothing on the passport that says "this passport is invalid if one attempts to enter the following countries..."

Could Barack Obama have traveled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport? Yes, but it would have been unwise. It would not have been impossible.

Perhaps it would have been easier for him to use a passport from a Muslim country such as Indonesia, and considering his propensity for laziness, cutting corners, expediency, and deceptiveness, I wouldn't be surprised if that is what he did.

59 posted on 03/29/2011 8:40:42 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: crz
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Oh, not that again. Dude, check your facts before posting. There was no travel ban to Pakistan in 1981. Someone just made it up, as with so many other "facts" birthers keep quoting.

98 posted on 03/30/2011 8:56:14 AM PDT by curiosity
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