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To: Machfour
What a doofus!
Cherry picking indeed!

I got three out of four, but the comedy is in the basic premise : that Christianity's foundation is The Old Testament. Comparing the quran to the Old Testament was too tempting a target for an ignorant and woefully circumscribed mind. But identifying it as the Pentateuch would have destroyed the target this fool intended to attack : Christianity. The fool is unaware of the phrase "The New Covenant." I will allow educated and informed individuals to judge for themselves the fallacy in the attempt.

I am not a religious nut, and I never quote scripture to advance any argument about contemporary discussions about the abominable quran, nor of the behavior of muslims in the last millenium. The behavior of muslims speaks for itself.

I will not undertake the fool's errand of searching Christian or Jewish behavior in the last 200 years which would quote those passages while commiting atrocities, nor preached from a Jewish synagogue or Christian church, encouranging its members to commit atrocities.

That behavior is daily fare in mosques worldwide TODAY!

I could elaborate and list dozens (or hundreds) of examples of muslim barbarism in just the last 300 years. and none in the history of Jews and Christians.

That's it.
Rather than waste more of my time responding to an ignorant, probably pervert, fool, I suggest that he, and others who think he has an informed, cogent argument, read :

The Closed Circle, David Pryce-Jones
Jihad in the West, Paul Fregosi
What Went Wrong?, Bernard Lewis
Unholy Terror , John Schindler
History of the Ottoman Turks , Edward Creasy, (Joseph Von Hammer)
From Time Immemorial , Joan Peters
Alms for Jihad , J Millard Burr And Robert O Collins

If anyone hasn't read most of those, they have no standing to have an intelligent discussion on the subject.
Are you listening, you little worm, Lenny?

16 posted on 03/29/2011 10:14:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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To: Publius6961

“I got three out of four, but the comedy is in the basic premise : that Christianity’s foundation is The Old Testament.”

Actually, the foundation of Christianity IS the Old Testament (do a close reading of the letter to the Hebrews). That relationship was settled in the struggle against Marcion and the other gnostic heresies that attempted to ditch the Old Testament God as a vengeful primitive unrespectable ‘particularist’ god of the Jews that no self-respecting non-Jew ‘in the know’ could take seriously.


18 posted on 03/29/2011 10:41:46 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Publius6961

“The behavior of muslims speaks for itself.”

Nothing “speaks for itself”. Everything is interpreted through some theoretical framework. A sentient being from the ‘outside’ looking in on the behavior of self-identified “Christian” nations in the 20th century would have seen them destroying each other and their imperial structures in two global wars, after having run riot around the globe gobbling up the lands and wealth of ‘lesser peoples’ (including the Muslim territories) through most of the 19th century. Those on the “inside” in those nations might counter that the “Christian” influence” was steadily diminishing from the end of the 16th-17th century ‘wars of religion’ (as a direct result of the destructive effects of those wars, Christians slaughtering each other over doctrinal hair splitting transformed into ideological weapons by the rising absolutist monarchies and consuming the wealth of much of Europe), and that by the time of the 20th century world wars that influence was decidedly secondary to the influence of the “Enlightenment” and “Romantic reaction to the Enlightenment” (all more-or-less true, but requiring a particular interpretive framework to make sense of it).


19 posted on 03/29/2011 10:56:00 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Publius6961
Today is a great day for me. I discovered that non-muslims, Americans asserting their Constitutionl rights, have overcome the forces of darkness and made a book, banned by the muslims and their oil money, available to anyone who wishes to read it.

Alms for Jihad is available as a PDF download (among other muslim-banned books,) at :

Alms for Jihad (PDF)

For the last five years, it has been my mission in life to disseminate this book as widely as possible.
I purchased a copy of it (at ten times its normal price.) to convert it into PDF format.
Someone else beat me to it.

22 posted on 03/29/2011 12:05:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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