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When will it ever end?

1 posted on 03/28/2011 11:49:39 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

Apparently no one in the GOP has the brains or guts to call this what it is. Even Sarah is drinking the kool-aid. Pretty damn sad.


2 posted on 03/28/2011 11:53:03 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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When one group of anti-American muslims wants to engage in civil war with another group of anti-American muslims the best thing that we could do is to make sure that both sides are well armed and then get out of the way.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 11:53:31 AM PDT by proudpapa
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I noticed Mr. Hunter does not address the issue of what Mr. Obama could POSSIBLY have meant when he said:

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,”

-— Barack Hussein Obama, December 20, 2007


4 posted on 03/28/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Remember: One man's Kinetic Military Action is another man's Man-Caused Disaster)
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To: logician2u

I sent the below letter to the paper today.

To: San Diego Union Tribune Letters (sosdnews@uniontrib.com)
Subject: Obama’s Libyan Actions Required Congressional Debate

Concerning national security Alexander Hamilton said, “Because it is impossible to foresee or define the extent and variety of national exigencies….no constitutional shackles can be wisely imposed on the power to which the care of it is committed. Since Libya poses no national exigency (emergency), Obama cannot espouse that statement for war.

Next as criteria for war come natural rights where Thomas Jefferson writes, “all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. Eleanor Roosevelt defines our U.N. commitment to collective security by writing that equal and inalienable rights for the human family encompass rights to life, liberty and security of person. John Kennedy reinforced this commitment saying, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” Finally, Ronald Reagan said we cannot escape destiny as the last best hope of afflicted mankind.

However, Barack Obama cannot claim natural rights as criteria for Libyan action, because he considered preventing genocide inconsistent reasoning for maintaining troops in Iraq; pointing out our un-involvement in the Congo and Darfur.

This leaves John Kerry’s international test making the U.S. subservient to worldwide conscience. Under that criteria Libya becomes more equal than the Congo, Sudan, Rwanda, and Uganda. Uninterrupted European access to natural resources seems the paramount reasoning, with humanitarian protection purely random.

Such reasoning required that Congressional debate accompany Obama’s leisurely deliberations.

P.S.

White House Hopeful Barack Obama Says Preventing Genocide Isn’t Reason to Keep U.S. Troops in Iraq
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290073,00.html
Obama: Don’t stay in Iraq over genocide
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19862711/ns/politics-decision_08/


5 posted on 03/28/2011 11:54:06 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: logician2u

Ha ha. Hussein has to have DH defend him. How humiliating!


6 posted on 03/28/2011 11:55:08 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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The president and his administration were confronted with a tough choice. Either avoid the fight altogether and watch a humanitarian crisis unfold, or stand with the international community to protect others and assist rebel elements that are outnumbered and outmatched.

Not a tough choice, considering what we're discovering about the elements of the anti-government factions.

So, I disagree. Circle gets the square.

7 posted on 03/28/2011 11:55:48 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: logician2u

Is Duncan Hunter now a RINO?


8 posted on 03/28/2011 11:56:19 AM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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Your comments would be welcomed!


9 posted on 03/28/2011 11:56:35 AM PDT by logician2u
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No, Obama, once again acted against what he had said in the past. He forgot Congressional authorization he said had to be there.

Note how Liberals/Progressives are forgiven for not following their own statements of principal. Whereas Republicans are excoriated.

10 posted on 03/28/2011 11:57:25 AM PDT by sr4402
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How can President 0bama be said to act correctly when he barely acted at all? He high-tailed it out of the country and has said more on his NCAA basketball picks than he has on Libya.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 11:57:28 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: logician2u

Another one to cross off the list.


12 posted on 03/28/2011 11:57:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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15 posted on 03/28/2011 11:58:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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Not mentioned is AL-QAEDA’S involvement in the Libyan rebellion.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 12:01:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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He is completely wrong. How is any humanitarian crisis in Libya more urgent than Sudan? How about the Slaughter of opposition in Iran? Bahrain? Egypt?

This is a way the dog moment for Obama and meant to bail out his arse and Europe’s.


20 posted on 03/28/2011 12:05:15 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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Where is our Speaker of the House on this? I am sure this is tissue worthy.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 12:05:31 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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One group of islamists for another. What a monumental load of crap!


22 posted on 03/28/2011 12:07:54 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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What was/is our interest in Libya? Why should we consider investing lives, and treasure in attacking Libya? What of benefit to the United States will be gained from the assault on Libya?

The President dithered, waffled for a couple of weeks prior to making his decision based upon a United Nations resolution, and had to be convinced then by his Socialist alleged Nat’l Security adviser, and his Socialist SOS to assault Libya for the purpose of “R2P Humanitarian Wars”.

It was, and isn’t in our interests to go to limited, kinetic, engagement in Libya. It was the United Nations interests. Screw them, and screw anyone that concedes to resolutions by the UN, over our own Congress.


23 posted on 03/28/2011 12:09:05 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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It is wrong when the President lies to the American people.
24 posted on 03/28/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I agree with Louis Farrakhan. Who The Hell Is Obama!?)
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“Either avoid the fight altogether and watch a humanitarian crisis unfold, or stand with the international community to protect others and assist rebel elements that are outnumbered and outmatched.”


Well, what the hell here... How about the Green Movement in Iran in 2009? They were demonstrably anti-authoritarian and pro-West. Yet, NOTHING was done to help THEM!!!! So, along comes an al-Qaeda - supported insurgency in Libya, and suddenly we’re compelled to help THEM?


25 posted on 03/28/2011 12:13:02 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: logician2u
The War Powers Resolution provides the president with the authority to conduct limited operations absent a declaration of war or use of force resolution from Congress.

WRONG

The War Powers act does NOT give the POTUS carte-blanche to use the military as his toy. There has to be a tangible threat to the United States or its interests, or a statute of some sort. Neither of these apply to Libya. Also, the POTUS is required to provide Congress with an explanation of why this action is necessary to prevent a threat to the US.

Regardless of how you feel about Libya, this sets a really bad precedent.

Hunter is WRONG.

27 posted on 03/28/2011 12:15:32 PM PDT by kidd
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