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SHOCKING AUDIO: Philadelphia Police violate rights of open carrier at gunpoint (PA)
OpenCarry.org ^ | 24 March, 2011 | t1m0thy

Posted on 03/26/2011 4:28:04 PM PDT by marktwain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-vUYeJXSrA

Listen as a citizen exercising his 2nd amendment right to legally bear arms was violently assaulted by Philadelphia Police with no cause.

In Pennsylvania carrying a gun is not reasonable suspicion of a crime and not justification for a stop and search or a detainment.

(Excerpt) Read more at forum.opencarry.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; opencarry; pa; pennsylvania; philadelphia; police
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Audio at the site on youtube.com. There is also a video from the same source that I will post the link to. I do not know the date of the incident.
1 posted on 03/26/2011 4:28:09 PM PDT by marktwain
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ping


2 posted on 03/26/2011 4:30:26 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: marktwain

Here is the link to the audio of the arrest/detainment/assault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-vUYeJXSrA

Here is a video that appears to be from the same source:

Who shall guard the guards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keNVkfrDA68&feature=watch_response


3 posted on 03/26/2011 4:30:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Well, when you do this in a place where the law is not well versed in the rights of its citizens in issues like this...

You will get a lot more attention and unreasonable enforcement every time...

But you have to admire this guys guts...

Wonder how the case will develop...


4 posted on 03/26/2011 4:37:45 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: marktwain

Wuldn’t it b e great if the police understood the law? This officer obviously needs “further training”. What a jerk.


5 posted on 03/26/2011 4:41:38 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: marktwain

Much of the time in PA the cops are not even aware of the frigging laws.

A few big time lawsuits will make law classes mandatory.


6 posted on 03/26/2011 4:41:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: marktwain

Every policeman who opened his/her mouth in that incident needs to be terminated and NEVER work in law enforcement ever again. I have never even heard of anything that bad in this country before. Awful.


7 posted on 03/26/2011 4:41:56 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Tribune7
Too bad he isn't a Black Muslim - you know.

If he was a democRAt it would be several be new Escalades.

A nation gone mad.

8 posted on 03/26/2011 4:44:27 PM PDT by oldtimer (uee)
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To: marktwain

The policemen are completely out of control. Is this a court case yet?


9 posted on 03/26/2011 4:47:00 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: marktwain

But, but, cops are your friends right??? They wouldn’t take your guns away.


10 posted on 03/26/2011 4:49:08 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: marktwain

Two thoughts. First, he’s lucky he wasn’t walking his dog. We know how that would’ve ended. Second, aren’t police supposed to deescalate “hostile” situations? Who was the one escalating that situation? It certainly wasn’t the citizen.


11 posted on 03/26/2011 5:01:58 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: marktwain

“Who shall guard the guards”?

If you would settle for “Who shall discipline the guards”, the answer is LAWYERS ! ! !


12 posted on 03/26/2011 5:03:41 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: marktwain

All of these police officers are vile! This is the caliber of thugs unions are producing for all of us. Do these officers deserve a full retirement paid for by the very same people they oppress?


13 posted on 03/26/2011 5:04:05 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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That jackboot antagonizer was still bouncing his jaw trying to justify his ignorance.
14 posted on 03/26/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: marktwain

Any word what the outcome of this was? Around 14:14 it sounds as though they make a decision, but it is hard to make out. In the end it sounds like he says to put in report he was not cooperating (which also isn’t a crime in itself as long as you aren’t directly resisting.)

What is also disturbing is it sounds as though, from minute 8 to 14 they are coordinating the story in the background and things like saying his hands were in his pockets when he and one other person says they weren’t.


15 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

IMHO, people, including cops, who can’t put a sentence together without every other word being the F bomb, are inherently stupid.


16 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:22 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain
Audio isn't working safe past the time backup arrives, as that's when the insane officer arrives. Wow, I'd say I was surprised about this but it really isn't anything new to me. I've had similar incidents with a small sheath knife on my belt, with a felony takedown lest the knife leap out and jump the officer.

Of course, in most of California it is a felony to carry a knife vs the far less serious offense of carrying a gun. Both of which are protected by the 2nd of it is a weapon, and if tools, none of the officer's business.

17 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:31 PM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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Would this citizen have been treated differently if he had obeyed every police command, justified or not, unquestionably? Maybe, maybe not.
18 posted on 03/26/2011 5:10:05 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: marktwain

What is false arrest going for in civil court these days? The figure $10,000,000 seems to pop into my head.

Oh, and a few cops finding new careers.


19 posted on 03/26/2011 5:10:21 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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Post of the day! Thank you.


20 posted on 03/26/2011 5:11:48 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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