Posted on 03/26/2011 12:31:16 AM PDT by neverdem
One of the kickers about the War On Some Drugs, it was black politicos that advocated much greater penalties for crack than regular cocaine. Now, they're whining that the differences in sentencing, saying it's racist!
The WOD has been a terrible mistake ,but the police and petty tyrants are addicted to the power and money.Don’t expect it to end.
I have to agree. The War On Drugs is a total failure, and it is probably unconstitutional as well if we really look at it. It is the same old ‘road to hell paved with good intentions’.
Yep.
So.... let anyone access whatever they want, regardless of situation?
It made sense. Anyone can get pot now in smokeable or edible forms and the quality is far better. If you get your MM card you can grow your own. I kind of wondered because a lot of the Mexicans worked in restaurants and motels, apart from construction, and they haven't laid anyone off.
So there was one problem solved for this town.
How much of a loser can a person be when alcohol is not enough for them?
I’m in agreement, the policy is a failure, and the cure is worse than the disease. Refreshing to see this on American Thinker!
Personally, I think this is an issue that more GOP candidates, especially those in battleground states, might want to think about. There’s a majority of Americans who are looking at these issues a lot more realistically than the government or either party does, and we might be able to pick up some votes on this.
I know a lot of Conservatives disagree and think this would be weakening our stance on social issues, but if the policy can’t work in reality, we are doing no favor to Conservative principles by pursuing it so doggedly. Isn’t it the left who pursue policies based on their desires and not based on pragmatism?
Another thing that I think makes this a true Conservative issue is the personal responsiblity angle. If we believe that citizens in general are trustworthy enough to own deadly weapons, then what sense does it make to treat people like children when it comes to drugs?
“How much of a loser can a person be when alcohol is not enough for them?”
Maybe some people don’t want to get cirrhosis, hepatitis, alcohol poisoning, or the dreaded testicular atrophy, among other alcohol-related diseases.
Personally, I’d say the guy gunning for testicular atrophy might be a loser, but that’s just me :)
I'd let natural stuff be legal, but taxed, and 18 years old would apply. 21 could be the cutoff, the same as alcohol. The DEA doesn't have to exist. There's no reason for extra Constitutional exceptions for them or other petty tyrants.
“If drugs were largely legal in the U.S. how would Mexico and Canada be forced to bring their drug laws into alignment with the U.S. laws?”
Well, the drug laws are already much more permissive generally in Canada. They’re more like some European states in that regard. As for Mexico, is that a joke? They are teetering on the edge of becoming a narco-state right now, primarily because of our drug laws and open border policy. I doubt they would be too distressed if we took the main source of income away from the cartels.
People advancing the drug culture are obviously slaves to a life style of drug consumption. Probably comparable to alcoholics. There is definitely something wrong there.
A line has been drawn. Why can't alcohol be enough?
This is about what kind of society you want your children to grow up in.
One where they make their own choices and deal with the consequences.
“’So.... let anyone access whatever they want, regardless of situation?’
It would be like living in a free country.”
Beautiful answer. LOL. Part of the experience of freedom is to only answer to yourself for your choices, where they don’t directly hurt another anyway.
It does have to do with what kind of society we want. The choice isn’t about living with even more drug addicts, because I believe those who do drugs will do them regardless, and some are even attracted to the forbidden.
The choice is about freedom and personal responsibility, and neither of those things a government can regulate.
“It would be like living in a free country.”
It would be like living in a free country if the taxpayers weren’t forced to pick up the tab for “education,” “treatment,” “rehabilitation,” “welfare,” etc.
If you can do the drugs, you can fulfill your responsibilities.
Also, let employers drug test employees and terminate failures.
Try to rob me to support your habits at your mortal peril.
DEA and even the FDA. Heck we can’t afford them anyway and it might make our medical industry more efficient and cheaper. We have to get away from the idea of the “nanny state” which tries to protect us from our stupidity by taking away our freedoms.
Seatbelt laws, helmet laws on bicycles even, and yes even drug laws, even prescription drugs. They are all roadsigns on the road to hell paved with good intentions.
As the Soviet Union proved so well the more you try to control your citizens the more they fall into sloth, crime, drunkenness, drugs and apathy.
Now, can anyone think of a more recent example of a country where society is trending downwards while laws and regulations are proliferating to ridiculous nannystate levels?
Are you saying that alcohol should be "enough" to satisfy the sum total of a person's needs? What about the need for clothing, shelter, nourishment, companionship, etc.?
Oh! You actually meant "enough to meet their need for intoxication," right? Well, I'd leave that to the individual to decide for himself. "One man's meat is another man's poison," as they say. Or would you rather that the Nanny State decide what's best for you?
And as for being a "loser" - since when is that a crime, or even merely a condition requiring government intercession? And there are millions of alcoholics who don't touch other drugs who are likewise losers - as well as millions of tea-totallers who are also losers.
Regards,
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