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LIVE thread & Breaking News ~ Japan
Various | 15 March 2011

Posted on 03/15/2011 8:13:35 AM PDT by SE Mom

Latest news from Japan:

From the BBC-

1456: Tepco says it may start pouring water from a helicopter over Fukushima Daiichi's reactor four in the next few days, to cool the spent-fuel pool.

1439: A 30km (18 mile) no-fly zone is in place around Fukushima, says the IAEA.

1436: The IAEA says Monday's blast at Fukushima may have affected the integrity of the containment vessel - there are fears of more serious radioactive leaks if happen.

1435: Following earlier reports, it appears there has been more than one strong aftershock in Japan - AP reports two tremors measuring over 6.0 within three minutes of each other.

Twitter-

-US Geological Survey counts 451 aftershocks since the initial earthquake struck Japan Friday. 238 of them registered magnitude 5.0 or more.

-Despite situations in Japan & Libya, spksmn Jay Carney says Pres Obama's 5-day trip to Brazil, Chile & El Salvador starting Fri night is on.

-FLASH: More U.S. military personnel in Japan testing positive for low-levels of radiation, relief missions to continue - Navy 18 minutes ago via web


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bwr; earthquake; fukushima; genpatsushinsai; iaea; japan; japanearthquake; japaneathquake; japannuclearplants; ki; nuclear; radiation; tsunami
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To: MarMema

Are you implying what I think you are implying??


1,101 posted on 03/16/2011 4:35:37 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: sissyjane

If I lived there and had small children, with the winds shifting direction on Thurs-Fri. I would certainly get the heck outta dodge somehow.


1,102 posted on 03/16/2011 4:36:54 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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Smoke/steam coming from reactor right now per Fox and NHK (about 1 hour ago)


1,103 posted on 03/16/2011 4:38:21 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: chimera
So if there is an incident involving a storage pool in this country, Reid will be responsible for the consequences.

Half right. Harry Reid would be responsible for storing fuel THERE. Jimmy Carter is responsible for STORING IT in the first place. His executive order is what blocked breeder reactors that would consume said spent fuel as a further source of fuel. France does that and hardly has any nuclear waste left at the end of their fuel cycle.

1,104 posted on 03/16/2011 4:39:16 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (If this can happen to JAPAN, why is the world letting IRAN have a reactor?)
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To: sissyjane
Then who would you choose to believe.

Risk analysis-wise, you'd have to believe the worst case scenario.

I'm not sure that I feel even a little bit of comfort that our only source of information ultimately is this private company.

1,105 posted on 03/16/2011 4:39:55 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: SteveH

Not shame but honor for their country and her image. Far more important than any individual.

1,106 posted on 03/16/2011 4:40:08 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: SE Mom

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/p/tp-20110317-01.html

Warden Message

A Message to American Citizens from Ambassador John V. Roos - March 17

The United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), the Department of Energy and other technical experts in the U.S. Government have reviewed the scientific and technical information they have collected from assets in country, as well as what the Government of Japan has disseminated, in response to the deteriorating situation at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant. Consistent with the NRC guidelines that apply to such a situation in the United States, we are recommending, as a precaution, that American citizens who live within 50 miles (80 kilometers) of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant evacuate the area or to take shelter indoors if safe evacuation is not practical.

We want to underscore that there are numerous factors in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami, including weather, wind direction and speed, and the nature of the reactor problem that affect the risk of radioactive contamination within this 50 mile (80 km) radius or the possibility of lower-level radioactive materials reaching greater distances.

The U.S. Embassy will continue to update American citizens as the situation develops. U.S. citizens in need of emergency assistance should send an e-mail to JapanEmergencyUSC@state.gov with detailed information about their location and contact information, and monitor the U.S. Department of State website at travel.state.gov.

The United States is continuing to do everything in its power to help Japan and American citizens who were there at the time of these tragic events. To support our citizens there, the Embassy is working around the clock. We have our consular services available 24 hours a day to determine the whereabouts and well-being of all U.S. citizens in Japan and we have offered our Japanese friends assistance, including disaster response experts, search and rescue teams, technical advisers with nuclear expertise, and logistical support from the United States military.


1,107 posted on 03/16/2011 4:40:08 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Bingo!


1,108 posted on 03/16/2011 4:43:07 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

The radiation has been falling for the last 12 hrs per NDK.

So Harry’s boy is most likely running his mouth.


1,109 posted on 03/16/2011 4:43:19 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

Uh huh. We’ll see if that holds up.


1,110 posted on 03/16/2011 4:47:16 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: SteveH

Another one, dated March 16

http://www.state.gov/p/eap/rls/rm/2011/03/158441.htm

Japan’s Earthquake and Tsunamis

Statement by U.S. Ambassador John V. Roos on Japan’s Earthquake and Tsunamis

Remarks

Tokyo, Japan

March 16, 2011

The United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), the Department of Energy and other technical experts in the U.S. Government have reviewed the scientific and technical information they have collected from assets in country, as well as what the Government of Japan has disseminated, in response to the deteriorating situation at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant. Consistent with the NRC guidelines that apply to such a situation in the United States, we are recommending, as a precaution, that American citizens who live within 50 miles (80 kilometers) of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant evacuate the area or to take shelter indoors if safe evacuation is not practical.

We want to underscore that there are numerous factors in the aftermath of the earthquake and Tsunami, including weather, wind direction and speed, and the nature of the reactor problem that affect the risk of radioactive contamination within this 50 mile (80 km) radius or the possibility of lower-level radioactive materials reaching greater distances.

The U.S. Embassy will continue to update American citizens as the situation develops. U.S. citizens in need of emergency assistance should send an e-mail to JapanEmergencyUSC@state.gov with detailed information about their location and contact information, and monitor the U.S. Department of State website at travel.state.gov.

The United States is continuing to do everything in its power to help Japan and American citizens who were there at the time of these tragic events. To support our citizens there, the Embassy is working around the clock, we have our consular services available 24 hours a day to determine the whereabouts and well-being of all U.S. citizens in Japan and we have offered our Japanese friends assistance, including disaster response experts, search and rescue teams, technical advisers with nuclear expertise and logistical support from the United States military.


1,111 posted on 03/16/2011 4:47:20 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Webcam.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
Only a tiny steam trail.


1,112 posted on 03/16/2011 4:49:21 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Whoa!
According to your analysis - and you can re-read it - the point has already been proven.

If something else happens it makes no difference.

The rods are not bare now as the fool said.

According to your analysis.


1,113 posted on 03/16/2011 4:52:40 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: SteveH
gunther oettinger

RTRS-EU ENERGY COMMISSIONER: THE SITUATION AT JAPANESE REACTOR IS “EFFECTIVELY OUT OF CONTROL”

RTRS-EU ENERGY COMMISSIONER: THERE COULD BE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS WITHIN THE COMING HOURS

(comment at the site) "Those flashes knocked billions off assets values around the world."

Gunther also said, it seems, “Practically everything is out of control. I cannot exclude the worst in the hours and days to come.”

Don't know if he is left or right in Germany. Everyone has their opinions. If they are powerful enough to get them in the press, the results are certainly able to be expressed economically. I thought everyone saw the movie Jaws, and then it's up to each of us to decide how safe the beach is in the end, I guess.

1,115 posted on 03/16/2011 4:59:34 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: SteveH

And we are putting detection equipment on Hawaii and Guam.


1,116 posted on 03/16/2011 5:00:43 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: mrsmith

Thank you - it sure looks pretty - if one didn’t know what was going on beneath the surface. :(


1,117 posted on 03/16/2011 5:05:18 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: SteveH
Hawaii and Dealing with a Worst-Case Scenario from Fallout from Japanese Reactors
1,118 posted on 03/16/2011 5:05:28 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
WAIT!! It's all ok. Nothing to worry about!!

Obama: Japan Radiation Won't Reach Hawaii

1,119 posted on 03/16/2011 5:07:24 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

I think the main damage would be limited to a 20 km or 50 mile radius. The difference might be a just function of nation— specifically, national nuclear regulatory agency caution.

But no, personally I would not like to be near there.

And it points out a need for closer international cooperation to try to minimize confusion and panic at the local level IMHO.

Also I am not sure the point of Jaczko second guessing the Japanese on the details of SFP water level for dai-ichi #4. Ideally they would get the story straight one way or another and present a united front to the rest of the world, otherwise it is just a pissing match at the NRC level. I am wondering what Jaczko knows about diplomacy with the Japanese. Jaczko may be unraveling in a few seconds what it took decades to achieve.

So the US experts are over there but who is in charge, the US or the Japanese?

Again, Obama should not have gone to SA.

They need better onsite telemetry, on circuits independent from the heavy diesel generators.


1,120 posted on 03/16/2011 5:11:42 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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