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iPad price remark gets Fed's Dudley an earful [Crowd Rejects No Inflation Argument]
Yahoo Finance ^ | By Kristina Cooke | By Kristina Cooke

Posted on 03/12/2011 3:43:20 AM PST by DeaconBenjamin

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Gee...inflation and deflation happening at the same time...

Do you here a canary singing?


21 posted on 03/12/2011 5:04:34 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“I can’t eat an iPad,” another said. “

Get an iCandy program and lick the screen.


22 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:14 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: EBH
Do you here a canary singing?

Nope. Not anymore. They took all the canaries down into the mines in the mid-70s and none returned ...

Only crickets chirp now ....

23 posted on 03/12/2011 5:19:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

After reading this article, I cannot help but compare today’s elitist politicoes to the political movers and shakers of the past. For example, even though John Adams was an immensely influential founding father, vice president and then President,I recall reading that he was still involved in “managing the manure spreading” at his farm. My point is that despite their obvious social standing, the Adamses and others in their position looked upon arrogance as sinful. They faced many of the same things in life that did those with less resources. While Adams was brokering the peace in Europe, his wife remained home amidst an outbreak of dysentery in Boston. This disease claimed many lives including that of Abigail’s mother who had come to help her daughter nurse the children and servants. This had a way of putting things into perspective I think. It also bears repeating that when Adams became the Vice President, and protocol demanded that Mrs. Adams sit at the right hand of President Washington’s wife, Martha, Abigail often felt embarrassed to claim that spot. Evidently others who surrounded the First Family during a dinner often sat in that chair unawares of its claimant. Because the nation’s founders did not want to look presumptuous they often backed off from the niceties that were due them. Usually, in these cases, the ever charming George made things right without in the least offending anyone, but you see where I am going. Today,the elite ,and usual liberal, in government are very far removed from their constituents and do nothing to make that gap narrower.


24 posted on 03/12/2011 5:30:40 AM PST by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The point that got missed is that if I purchase an I-pad today, I’m not going to need another one in few days. I purchase a loaf of bread, either I eat it or it gets moldy in a relatively short period of time. As such it is a perishable commodity.

When the cost of that same loaf was $1.39 last week, and is now $1.69 this week. Especially, if the margins to the baker and retailer remain the same, that is inflation.


25 posted on 03/12/2011 5:34:17 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: sueuprising

Times have changed. To be a successful politician in modern America is to be someone for whom the words “self-restraint,” “modesty,” and “shame” have no practical meaning.


26 posted on 03/12/2011 5:43:24 AM PST by Clioman
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To: tgusa

>Cheeseheads - take your state back, or ride it down the toilet.

Think before you post, okay? - They already did
They elected a conservative assembly a conservative senate and a conservative governor.

How does your state stack up?


27 posted on 03/12/2011 5:44:42 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Misjudging your audience is hardly unusual for those in positions of power.

Ain't that the truth!

Remember that broad back in the 1700's somewhere -- was it in France? -- who said "Let them eat cake!" when a govenment bureaucrat told her that people were complaining about the rising price of bread?

28 posted on 03/12/2011 6:38:51 AM PST by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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"Oh, man. All the super-capitalists here on FR that use that argument every day are, well, looking as foolish as Dudley did..."

It's not "super-capital[ism]" or even capitalism which is causing the rise in food prices. Much of it is due to what are most decidedly anti-capitalist: government subsidies, over-regulation, green energy boondoggles (ethanol, anyone?), monetary policy (QE, QE2), and generally too much central-government meddling in the market. To blame capitalism for the rise in food prices is to ignore reality.
29 posted on 03/12/2011 6:49:55 AM PST by RBranha (Captialism is the natural outgrowth of human freedom.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

What a stupid twit! Technology is one of the few areas of the economy that is deflationary - prices actually decrease over time.


30 posted on 03/12/2011 7:02:51 AM PST by reg45
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To: DeaconBenjamin
In 2007, candidate Barack Obama asked an Iowa crowd if they had seen what Whole Foods -- an upscale supermarket more popular in big cities than in the Corn Belt -- charges for arugula.

Funny how that flub didn't get much traction outside of FR. I guess the MSM was too busy doing background work on Joe the plumber Wurzelbacher.

31 posted on 03/12/2011 7:10:00 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: RBranha
It's not "super-capital[ism]"

Agreed - it's these aren't capitalists. They are corporate and union welfare queens sucking at Uncle Ben's free money teat - except that the money isn't free, it's created via the indentured servitude, via taxes, of you and your children and your children's children...ad infinitum or ad rerum mutatio which ever comes first.

I still have enough faith in the American People to resort to the latter and hit the reset button as spelled out in our Declaration of Independence.

32 posted on 03/12/2011 7:19:02 AM PST by Big Bronson
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Consumer electronics and their early adopter premium price effect should be out-of-bounds for the CPI.


33 posted on 03/12/2011 7:53:02 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: RBranha
It's not "super-capital[ism]" or even capitalism which is causing the rise in food prices. Much of it is due to what are most decidedly anti-capitalist: government subsidies, over-regulation, green energy boondoggles (ethanol, anyone?), monetary policy (QE, QE2), and generally too much central-government meddling in the market. To blame capitalism for the rise in food prices is to ignore reality.

Man, did you miss the meaning of my post. Nowhere do I blame capitalism.

I was pointing out that super-capitalists will use the same argument as Dudley to convince us that we are so much better off because we have super computers, cars that run better, and DVD's, etc.

The idea that inflation, per the govt, doesn't include food and energy because it's too "volatile" is what this article is about.

34 posted on 03/12/2011 7:58:42 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Brandybux
who said "Let them eat cake!" when a govenment bureaucrat told her that people were complaining about the rising price of bread?

And as I learned it, "cake" is not a frosted confection ... think of that beehive shaped brick opening in a typical hearth in the 1700's. To bake, one shoveled in hot coals, let it heat up and then removed the coals. In order to clean the oven of residual ash, one mixed flour with water and poured it in to bake and capture the ash. That CAKE, when removed, left a clean oven ready for the real baking. The cake contained the ash and bits of coal. Think panCAKE without the sugar but lots of crunch.

So you see, the insult was an order of magnitude worse.

35 posted on 03/12/2011 8:03:47 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: raybbr
"Man, did you miss the meaning of my post. Nowhere do I blame capitalism."

Your use of "super-capitalists" as a pejorative revealed more than you intended, I'm sure.
36 posted on 03/12/2011 8:09:11 AM PST by RBranha (Captialism is the natural outgrowth of human freedom.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

New York Fed President William Dudley: “LET THEM EAT IPODS!


37 posted on 03/12/2011 8:11:14 AM PST by momteacherandvp (Don't put your lips on that thing!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It looks like a “Let them eat cake” moment.


38 posted on 03/12/2011 8:42:18 AM PST by dragonblustar (The grace of the Lord Jesus be with GodÂ’s people. Amen.)
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To: dragonblustar

Of course this will all be forgotten in the 2012 elections and the people go back to vote for Obama.


39 posted on 03/12/2011 8:44:48 AM PST by dragonblustar (The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God's people. Amen.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“”Today you can buy an iPad 2 that costs the same as an iPad 1 that is twice as powerful,” he said. “You have to look at the prices of all things.”

The fed actually does this as part of its price comparisons. Because the old iPad is now $250, instead of $500 that it was last year, they will then claim the iPad has fallen by half. So, that $500 is now claimed to be $250 so if your food bill goes up by $250 they’ll claim there has been no inflation.

There is no direct costs-of-life comparisons. They won’t toss in electricity, gas, home heating, food, etc. They throw in big screen TVs, blenders, furniture, clothes, etc. They try to add up things you might not buy every year or even one every ten years.


40 posted on 03/12/2011 8:55:32 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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