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24 posted on 03/09/2011 7:43:45 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: GOPJ; NYDave
Should We Be Alarmed That The Biggest Bond Fund In The World Has Dumped U.S. Treasury Bonds?

It's a bad day for me to be answering this question: I am just furious. This action is the single most egregious fraud that I have personally witnessed over course of three decades.

Last fall al Arian and Gross were on CNBC very oftern, seemed like twice a week. At the time, I was telling anybody who would listen that bonds are unlikely to go higher because: (i) the rates had already fallen to the level of October 2008; and, more importantly, (ii) it'd become common sense to buy Treasuries. Too many people were urging that --- a sure sign of a bubble-think to me.

My opinion could and should be questioned, of course. The point is that buying bonds at the time was far from trivial. But what did Pimco do? Gross and al Arian were telling the world, day in and day out, how dangerous it was out there, everyone should be accumulating Treasuries, and rates will fall all the way to 2% from then current 2.5%.

And now, just a couple of months later they have zero investment in those bonds?! If this is not fraudulent --- urging people to buy as you are selling to them --- I don't know what is.

As you know, it's not easy for me to use such words; I've been taking flack for years now, trying to stop unfounded accusations against Wall Street, the Fed, etc. But do think that this behavior is fraudulent. I think it would qualified to be called such if, while advising others to buy, they themselves sold 20% of their holding. But zero holdings? It's like yelling, "You suckers!" to all those mutual fund managers that followed al Arian's and Gross' advice.

I am just furious. I've got to distance myself from these emotions before I can think about economics again.

39 posted on 03/10/2011 9:18:03 AM PST by TopQuark
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