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Never before release 911 video, main NYPD source(why now?)
aol ^ | 3/7/2011 | Lisa Flam

Posted on 03/07/2011 10:25:32 AM PST by SonsOfLibertyII

Why did it take a freedom of information act request for us to see one of the main video sources of 911? Why didn't the people on the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, tell us about it or at least identify it as a significant source?


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 911
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To: redgolum

Ok so they may come up with the excuse oh, we just forgot to mention we had it. What else do they have? Its time for Conservatives to form their own committee and make a determination of who should have been fired.

Yeah that German philosopher is dead, ha.


21 posted on 03/07/2011 11:12:31 AM PST by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: sauropod

Been seen many many times. This is someone’s idea of a revelation?


22 posted on 03/07/2011 11:16:34 AM PST by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Carley

Where is your evidence that it has been seen before? Can you post any reference to it or a portion of it? Are you claiming you yourself saw it? Is there some youtube site for all of it or a portion of it that you can cite? If not then why make such an unsubstantiated claim?


23 posted on 03/07/2011 11:27:34 AM PST by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: sauropod
It's been edited! The part where the tower is actually collapsing has been edited out, between 4:03 and 4:04. The camera has just zoomed in, then zooms out, then at 4:04 someone says, "Ah!" but it's like his comment has been cut off before that. Then someone says "Holy crap, the whole side, it's gone, the whole tower!" But there is no reason why they wouldn't have seen and taped the actual collapse.

This is the real enigma. Not the fact that the tape was never release, but what happened to the collapse footage.

24 posted on 03/07/2011 11:33:21 AM PST by giotto
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To: RWGinger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w465MHsvYpg&feature=player_embedded


25 posted on 03/07/2011 11:51:56 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: giotto
It's been edited! The part where the tower is actually collapsing has been edited out, between 4:03 and 4:04. The camera has just zoomed in, then zooms out, then at 4:04 someone says, "Ah!" but it's like his comment has been cut off before that. Then someone says "Holy crap, the whole side, it's gone, the whole tower!" But there is no reason why they wouldn't have seen and taped the actual collapse.

This is the real enigma. Not the fact that the tape was never release, but what happened to the collapse footage.

I noticed that it was edited too.

It is stupid to not show it or other horrible things. It is information control. Not that I wanted to see horrible things on purpose. I do not believe in censorship of any kind.

Also, some motion pictures digitally erased the twin towers from the film.

It is like they were never there in real life.

26 posted on 03/07/2011 11:53:00 AM PST by archivist007
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To: giotto

i dont know if it was cut or just stopped and restarted again.
how do you really know that the tower started collapsing at that point? I see nothing to indicate that.


27 posted on 03/07/2011 11:54:24 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Thank you very much


28 posted on 03/07/2011 11:57:51 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

happy to help. I understand completely :)


29 posted on 03/07/2011 11:59:23 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: RWGinger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w465MHsvYpg


30 posted on 03/07/2011 12:28:37 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Any idea why I have no sound from U Tube?


31 posted on 03/07/2011 12:30:31 PM PST by Domangart
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

The day we lost our innocence here


32 posted on 03/07/2011 12:31:27 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Munz

Later.


33 posted on 03/07/2011 12:40:55 PM PST by kcvl
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
Where is your evidence that it has been seen before?

My evidence is in my memory. That's inside my skull.

Are you claiming you yourself saw it?

No, I am STATING that I myself saw several portions of this footage many times in 2001. And if I saw it, millions of other people saw it too. It was on TV in New York. Local and national programming. It is not "secret footage".

Is there some youtube site for all of it or a portion of it that you can cite?

If youtube even existed in 2001, most of us here were not utilizing it.

If not then why make such an unsubstantiated claim?

It's not a claim, and it's not unsubstantiated. I've seen it before. I recognized it immediately.

sauropd's wife

34 posted on 03/07/2011 12:41:21 PM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Correct me if I’m wrong - but I see no new evidence in this clip.

“Pick your battles”?


35 posted on 03/07/2011 12:42:43 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Almost 10 years and it still feels like yesterday...


36 posted on 03/07/2011 12:43:33 PM PST by FightforFreedomCA (Pelosi is a wretched, communist, b!#*&)
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To: Munz
Because at 4:03 the tower is still there, and at 4:03 it is not. Clearly there was a section cut out. In my opinion, the voice-over sounds fake. On 9/11, no one said "Holy crap" when the tower fell. Almost everyone said either "Holy s#!+" or "Oh my God" or "F***" The audio voice-over in this tape sounds as if someone has added it to the revised video.
37 posted on 03/07/2011 1:27:40 PM PST by giotto
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

“Not one person was fired in our gov after 3,000 people were murdered.”

O.K., out of curiosity, I’ll take the bait: Who, exactly, in your opinion, should have been fired?


38 posted on 03/07/2011 1:44:45 PM PST by Wuli
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

“I am not posting this as support for some conspiracy, but it gives credence to those 911 truthers, that we get this drip drip of evidence”

I don’t find anything in or about this video to consider it new “evidence” in any material way.

The particular angle and “point of view” of the camera in this particular helicopter might be different than other still and moving images taken at the same time, but the result of the images it provides does not provide anything “new”, any “new” evidence, that other images and facts did not and has not already provided.

The facts makes your “drip drip” angle - concerning this video - just silly.


39 posted on 03/07/2011 1:52:55 PM PST by Wuli
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

“Its time for Conservatives to form their own committee and make a determination of who should have been fired.”

Since it’s your idea, why don’t you start the process here, by telling us who you think should be on the list of “should have been fired”.


40 posted on 03/07/2011 1:56:00 PM PST by Wuli
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