Posted on 03/01/2011 3:57:34 PM PST by wagglebee
The death panel's "side" is that they want to kill Baby Joseph.
Suffocation is SO much kinder./s
You mean like life?
A trache is not a "heroic" measure.
I have to go to work.
It was interesting debating.
I did not vote in that election.
This is about saving a human life, not a debate.
I did not vote in that election.
Then do you support Washington state's legalization of assisted suicide? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Yes, "debating" the issue of a baby's life or death is "interesting" isn't it?
I thought it was more “interesting” to see someone with no moral perspective or compassion for human beings “spout off”. Particularly one who claims to be a nurse.
Probably was not on a ventilator.
We're talking life and death here. Unless you know these things as fact, stop conjecturing.
You obviously have little medical knowledge of this specific case. What are your medical credentials?
OMG! A nurse? Compassion incarnate!/s
When they claim to have "facts" it is typically a fabricated talking point.
Look at what they did with Terri Schiavo:
1. They stated as a fact that she was "brain dead" and yet they gave her morphine for pain (of course it was also to slow her breathing and kill her quicker, but they didn't publicize that). Why would someone who is "brain dead" need anything for pain?
2. Then they said that being dehydrated to death is "euphoric" but provided NOTHING to support this claim. And again, how can a person who is "brain dead" experience euphoria?
The FACTS in Baby Joseph's case is that a person who is "brain dead" CANNOT survive for more than a few minutes off of a respirator, so why is the hospital unwilling to give him a tracheotomy?
In Baby Joseph's case money is now being used as a red herring. Father Frank Pavone would not have offered financial support if he didn't have the backing to do it.
Well said. Didn’t we know with Terri that this issue was not going to go away, that instead her murder was just going to be the beginning?
Oh, OK.
Hope is indelibly engraved in the human heart because God our Father is life, and for eternal life and beatitude we are made.
Every child born is a sign of trust in God and man and a confirmation, at least implicit, of the hope in a future open to Gods eternity that is nourished by men and women. God has responded to this human hope, concealing Himself in time as a tiny human being.
Saint Augustine wrote: We might have thought that your Word was far distant from union with man, if this Word had not become flesh and dwelt among us (Conf. X, 43, 69, cited in Spe Salvi, n. 29).
Thus, let us allow ourselves to be guided by the One who in her heart and in her womb bore the Incarnate Word.
O Mary, Virgin of expectation and Mother of hope, revive the spirit of Advent in your entire Church, so that all humanity may start out anew on the journey towards Bethlehem, from which it came, and that the Sun that dawns upon us from on high will come once again to visit us (cf. Lk 1: 78), Christ our God. Amen.
Pope Benedict XVI
From his homily for the first vespers
of the first Sunday of Advent,
December 1, 2007 - St. Peters Basilica
**No way is a hospital in the US going to accept this patient**
Have you never heard of Catholic hopsitals?
I missed that before, but yes. Exactly. :)
Read further, and it will all be clear.
Please read the report by the medical board.
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onccb/doc/2011/2011canlii7955/2011canlii7955.html
I am not sure how to copy and paste to the FR site, but this report is very detailed. This baby has no brain function.
Fight for another cause. There are a lot of children out there who need help and support. Help and support with medical bills, etc. Fight for them.
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