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To: jacknhoo
. If it takes extreme measures to stop the senseless killings, fine with me.

And therein lies the willingness to embrace totalitarianism. Let us take your affability to extreme measures, to ensure no rolling stops, to their extremes: You have no problem with a 2000+ dollar fine, I see. So how about a 10,000 dollar fine? How about forfeiture of a car? How about a mandatory year in jail? Ten years in prison okay with you? Cutting off a leg cool? How about the death penalty for a rolling stop? How about the killing of the entire immediate family for a rolling stop?

Excessive punishments are unconstitutional, for a reason. It is to prevent, in some small measure, tyranny.

I submit that a fine that would be the entire months earning power for an average man, for a single rolling stop, is excessive punishment.

61 posted on 02/15/2011 11:45:35 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

I would hardly call that totalitarianism...LOL. Tell me, do you support the death penalty?


63 posted on 02/15/2011 2:09:39 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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