Posted on 02/14/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by Kaslin
Looks pretty conservative to me.
“Bigger government that theyll gladly use to bludgeon you with for saying buggery is a sin.”
Who is “they”?
That's easy — Special protection from society's disapproval.
The whole point of the “gay rights” travesty is to enlist the government in a crusade to make our culture abandon its deep-seated disapproval of homosexual conduct. We can't abandon that disapproval without completely dismantling our traditional sexual morality. For millennia our culture has taken for granted that sexual expression is to be celebrated only when it serves the purpose of creating and sustaining a family in the context of a monogamous marriage. That idea is a large part of what we are and a critical element of our culture's fabulous success.
You don't make government smaller by empowering it to rip that idea out by the roots. You make it larger and more repressive. Government will have to police speech and social relations in highly intrusive ways as it tries to revolutionize the West's mores. That, of course, is the antithesis of limited government.
Nobody who wants the government to revolutionize our culture's morality is a conservative by any definition. You can certainly be gay and conservative, just as you can be a conservative adulterer. But you can't be conservative and still agitate for the government to promote acceptance of homosexuality. The iron law of contradiction forbids it.
100% spot on! Some people seem to think "conservative" can be broken down into "fiscal" and "social". It can't. A fiscal conservative who's also a social liberal is a libertarian, which is an entirely different animal. A libertarian is a half-a**ed conservative.
For the life of me, I don't see why the likes of Andrew Breitbart, Ann Coulter, and the FReepers who've been defending them over the last few days/weeks are willing to sell out such a big plank of the conservative platform in order to win so few votes. Homos make up...what, about one percent of the electorate, tops? Seems to me that the GOP would win more votes from independents like me by taking a strong stand against homosexual "rights", queers in the military, homo marriage and adoption, etc.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
One queer party is enough, the RATS can have them.
You’re thinking is twisted. You make the government smaller by reducing what it does to that which the Constitutions says it may do. period.
Sure can.
The law was that a couple had to be caught in the act of adultery and both brought for judgment. There also had to be witnesses. The punishment for not doing so would be the same as that for the accused. In other words they'd be stoned.
They were trying to set Jesus up but they broke the law. The dude was nowhere to be found and there were no witnesses. They couldn't cast the first stone because they would condemn themselves if they did. The Scripture says that the older ones dropped their stones first. That's because they knew the law and they broke it.
Jesus said to her that "Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more." He DID judge her but did not condemn her.
Oh, by the way, I want to say this before it gets brought up for me.
I am NOT one of their “allies,” as described in the above article. That implies that I am workings for their agenda which is absolutely NOT the case.
I oppose homosexual marriage, and don’t even believe there CAN be homosexual marriage. I think that homosexuals already HAVE equal rights in that they have exactly the same rights as everyone else. I do not believe homosexuality is legitimate or even tolerable, and homosexual behavior of any sort is not allowed in my home.
I wanted to make that abundantly clear before my previous explanation of my interaction with homosexuals turns into an argument or rant with the usual flames directed my way.
Would you have trouble with a "pro-welfare-state-conservative" or a "pro-pornography-conservative?"
Ethics have always been a part of what conservatism means--and is what separates us from libertine libertarians. So while strictly speaking "religion" doesn't define conservatism, living in an unethical way denies conservatism.
Active homosexuals, who act by having perverted sex with persons of their own sex, are by definition unethical, and therefore, not conservative. I'd say it is difficult if not impossible to be an "atheist-conservative" too, as atheism has no logical basis of ethics...which is the heart of conservative principles.
Homosexuals or atheists may have conservative ideas about certain areas, and be our allies in many ways, but ultimately they fall in the libertarian camp, and their ideas on family, or religion--are destructive to America.
Thank you! I learned long ago, in high school debate, that the side which sets the terms of the debate has the advantage from the start. By using Leftist-approved terms like "gay", "progressive", "undocumented immigrant" or even "illegal immigrant", we have given our enemies an advantage right out of the gates. We need to call them what they are...Leftists, illegal aliens and homosexuals.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
“If conservatives accept the queer agenda they lose the majority of the voting base.”
You mean the fairtax? (which I am really not a fan of)
Smaller government?
Is that the queer agenda? If you are opposed to the fairtax, shout if from the rooftops, and let that merry band of fanatics give you the same treatment you are giving me.
The difference in sinners is repentance. To receive God's grace one has to repent. They don't have repentance parades, they have prideful sin parades.
Name me one so-called social issue that is not also economic. You have businesses today being punished financially through lawsuits for not following the left-wing social agenda of treating perversion as normal, how is that not also an economic issue. There is nothing conservative about GOProud or the homosexual agenda.
It is unbelievable!
The ONLY reason for group identity politics is to push an agenda related to the group. They vote as they please WITHOUT a group.
Social Security for "domestic partners" is Conservative? Healthcare for "domestic partners" is Conservative? Tax perks for "domestic partners" is conservative?
It is not.
Using big government to enforce the homo-nazi agenda not only in the US but on other countries is conservative to you???
I don’t support the fairy tax or the fairy agenda!
All homosexuals who want government to enforce the homo-nazi agenda want bigger government.
And if you think GOProud’s legislative agenda is conservative, you’re on the bandwagon no matter what kind of private life you have.
If you think the GOProud’s legislative agenda is an agenda for smaller government, you’re either a liar or on drugs; can’t seen any third option.
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