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To: djwright

Correct me if I’m wrong but the -8i variant has a lot of the Dreamliner 787 technology in it. No bleed air environmental system (other then engine anti-icing). Each power using component has it’s own redundant hydraulic system. Electric everything! Fly by wire. Did I miss anything? Call in ErnstStavroBlofeld -— he’s always posting those Aviation Week articles!


23 posted on 02/13/2011 9:02:50 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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It also has a new wing design that’s supposed to make it even more efficient.

I’ve seen the 1st 2 747-8’s parked in front of the test hangar at Boeing Field while driving along I-5. Impressive plane.


33 posted on 02/14/2011 6:47:34 AM PST by hoagy62 (I am a optimistic pessimist. I am positive that the world is going to Hell.)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

“Correct me if I’m wrong “

I’ll do :-)
“the -8i variant has a lot of the Dreamliner 787 technology in it.” It’s like the Marines “the few, the good”. Only a few technologies made it into the -8.

The cockpit is based on the 787 look’n’feel and likely most of the avionics.

The engines are more fuel efficient then the good ‘ol GE-CF6. Don’t belive the ‘We used the same engines the 787 uses’ cool aid. The GEnx is not a revolutionary engine. It’s a advanced version of the GE90/EA GP7000. Nothing more, but also nothing less. The GEnx will meet the wings of the following aircraft: 787, 747-8 & A350. The only “bleed less” version will be the one for the 787. A revolutionary engine would have been a large scale “geared fan” from P&W which i doubt P&W is able to produce in the near future.

No the 747-8 does NOT have fly by wire. It still “relies and flies” on oilpressure (hydraulics) and steel ropes. It does have some electric actuators that replace a few hydraulic failover systems, but it’s definetly not FBW. Boeing call it partitial FBW. I call it classic rock solid design way behind the bleeding edge technology. So it’s more a “Electric only if we can’t avoid it”

Neither is it “bleed less”. It uses bleed air for almost everything like the 1969 747-100 including pressurization of the fuselage.

The 747-8i will have the new modern cabin design, like the 787 and the overhauled 737 since last year.

For me the most impressive advantage of the 747-8i is it’s new designed wing. But it simply lacks one thing: It’s basically a 40 - 50 year old design. Rock solid but a gas guzzler. You simply can’t built a modern fuel efficient plane based on a type rating certificate of a 60s design.

P.s. If you want FBW, take a ride on the 777, the 787 or a recent Airbus (A320/A330/A340/A380)


36 posted on 02/14/2011 1:41:36 PM PST by buzzer
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