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Why Can't My Health Insurance Be Like My Car Insurance?
American Thinker ^ | 02/09/2011 | Jon George, MD

Posted on 02/09/2011 7:49:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: AppyPappy
Not true. People drive all the time without car insurance. Most illegals don’t have car insurance.

Indeed. Whenever government decides to enforce car insurance requirements, illegals are rarely if ever targeted. It is always those of us who are legal citizens who are on the business end of the law.

41 posted on 02/09/2011 8:29:53 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ken5050

You get it. Republican plans suck too.


42 posted on 02/09/2011 8:30:18 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: SeekAndFind

Once upon a time, individual health insurance policies were underwritten very much like auto insurance:

Auto insurance is based on the Year, Make & model of the vehicle and health questionnaires and/or medical exams were required before issuing a policy.

Medical coverage excluded pre-existing conditions( prior damage), cosmetic surgery (custom paint jobs), pregnancy (reckless behavior) and old age (worn out brakes).

So there are some parallels.


43 posted on 02/09/2011 8:31:08 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the only thing i want to change on my health insurance that i can do with my auto insurance is have the ability to buy a plan over state lines. my homeowners, auto and motorcycle plans are all from out of state companies, and are much cheaper for it.

i’ve always wondered.. why doesn’t the requirement to buy your health insurance from your own state violate the interstate commerce clause?


44 posted on 02/09/2011 8:33:52 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Why shouldn’t those who voluntarily increase the risk to the insurance company pay more for health insurance?

And that will lead to just about every disease being described as 'caused by lifestyle'. The statistics behind most of the current disease-lifestyle links are pretty shaky. Even obesity can be caused by infection - do a search on infectobesity.

45 posted on 02/09/2011 8:34:17 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: ken5050
I doubt that the majority of doctors and hospitals would want to have to deal with several hundred diffeent insurers. They would most likely refuse to accept them, for obvious reasons.

Or, doctors could refuse to deal with insurance altogether and have the patient do all of the dealing instead.

46 posted on 02/09/2011 8:34:17 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ken5050

Probly the sane way to handle this is to first have Tort reform to protect well meaning providers. Second..Outlaw managed care completely. Third have a two tier system. Those who can afford it can buy real insurance and others get socialized medicine complete with rationing. Or charity care. I see no other viable alternatives. The corruption and fraud now is not ‘curable’.


47 posted on 02/09/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: ken5050
I do think there are major problems in implementing this idea.

I agree, but I think that the end result would be a "flattening" of policies, or "a-la-carte" options, either of which would be desirable.

For instance, thtough my company, I'm covered for all mental health issues, although I have absolutely no history of problems. I'm also covered for drug and alcohol addiction (again, not going to happen). I'm also covered for pregnancy. I'm not expecting that one, either.

If, and this is impossible due to stifling regulations within many states, but if I could go to an "a-la-carte" type plan and choose NOT to be covered for a number of ailments - in effect, self-insuring for them (a risk I'm willing to take) - the policy rates would necessarily go down.

For instance, Mrs WBill chose NOT to be covered for pregnancy (that's the one thing that can be opted out of in our state). Saved us thousands per year on her health insurance.

48 posted on 02/09/2011 8:38:41 AM PST by wbill
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To: sodpoodle

Another point. When HMOs first came out, they were very popular, and very affordable. It represented a quantum leap forward in health care coverage, and controlling costs. They offered several plans, with different levels of coverage, and at differetn rates. What destroyed the HMO were the state legislatures that “mandated” that these plans must include all these additional features, like second opinions, maternity, chiropractic, additional days in hospital...etc. etc...there’s a huge list...and the companies had to raise premiums through the roof..


49 posted on 02/09/2011 8:39:16 AM PST by ken5050 (Palin/Bachman 2012 - FOUR boobs are better than the two we have now!)
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To: pnh102

They could, and some do..but that will be pure free market economics..I welcome it...


50 posted on 02/09/2011 8:41:46 AM PST by ken5050 (Palin/Bachman 2012 - FOUR boobs are better than the two we have now!)
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To: MortMan

This is a doctor? Of what? Everyone knows that age- related changes contribute to declining health. Mortality rate of humans still 100%. If this is *your* doctor, please reconsider your choice. I sincerely hope this is satire, or maybe a doctor of bean plants.


51 posted on 02/09/2011 8:44:19 AM PST by momincombatboots (In a few months I will be Ore..Gone! Look out Crater Lake, here we come!)
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To: ken5050

This may not answer your question but may offer some insight.

1. Companies do price various insurance products for all 50 states. The catch is they must file what they offer (coverage and rates) with each State insurance regulator. That is a cost item that could be reduced.

2. A plethora of forms would be a problem, but it is a problem the free market could deal with by voluntary standardization. What insurance is accepted may become a moot point, but unless it is allowed, how would we ever know if it could work.

The barrier is a court decision (name escapes me) that made insurance regulation the sole province of the States, and hence the added cost for all the required filings.


52 posted on 02/09/2011 8:44:31 AM PST by trubolotta
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To: antiRepublicrat

“why not pay more in health insurance if you smoke?”

Check your policy.

Smokers DO pay more for health coverage.

I’m sent a renewal policy every year and one of the questions on the policy is “Do you Smoke?”

Why do you think that is?

Because rates are HIGHER for smokers.


53 posted on 02/09/2011 8:47:24 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: SeekAndFind

why cant my health insurance be like my life insurance?


54 posted on 02/09/2011 8:50:28 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: screaminsunshine

The tier system works well in Switzerland, where everyone purchases his own private health insurance, while the employer pays All accidents, whether on the job or on the slopes. So no need for all the expense to prove the accident was work related, no work mans comp legal industry.

The tiers are ward, semi-private, and private. Most middle class people have semi-private. Gee, medical care is better if you pay more! Just like everything else.


55 posted on 02/09/2011 8:56:04 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Bigh4u2

My health insurance doesn’t ask about smoking.


56 posted on 02/09/2011 8:56:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SeekAndFind
"To begin with, I would be required to have health insurance just as any driver is mandated to have auto insurance"

This is a totally false premise. NO state requires drivers to insure themselves. The only requirement is to obtain insurance for damage that a driver may do to OTHERS. This is a basic flaw in this analogy that most pundits miss.

57 posted on 02/09/2011 8:59:20 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Yaelle

Righto. Our whole system sucks. Wards are a lot cheaper. Swiss system sounds good.


58 posted on 02/09/2011 8:59:19 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Mine does.

I can’t imagine one company asking about the state of your ‘health’, including smoking, and one not asking.

Insurance companies will do everything possible to make you pay as high a premium as they can.


59 posted on 02/09/2011 8:59:51 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Graybeard58

Personally, we don’t need mandated auto insurance (given that a significant portion of those already on the road do not purchase it, and we don’t need mandated health insurance.

If people wish to purchase it (BLUE CROSS), etc, then they can. If they do not, then they shouldn’t. Same with driving. Someone who drives cautiously, and doesn’t and cannot afford insurance should have the option of not paying for it.

That being said as tanstaafl, if there is an accident, you pay the full cost.


60 posted on 02/09/2011 9:02:01 AM PST by BenKenobi (one of the worst mistakes anybody can make is to bet against Americans.")
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