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To: dblshot; Upstate NY Guy; Hush44

So, the best thing to do is what exactly? I’m hearing defeatism, mostly, and not a lot of direction to good information in support of fracking.

We live on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, not a lot of fracking here. A poster was put up in our building by a lib neighbor. She has a weekend place in Bershire County MA, we have one nearby in Columbia County NY. Fracking is a pretty big deal upstate. New York State - the entire country, actually - needs the benefits that NG fracking could provide, the last thing the upstate economy needs is to be crippled even more by City libtards.

It seems to me that if free markets had any say NG would be the #1 energy source of the USA. Domestic, abundant, clean, cheap - how good is that? But how do we get to that if we keep ceding ground, this time in the fracking debate? They lie, and we don’t call them out?

I feel like we lose a lot of debates to the libs for the wrong reasons - they know they have to work harder, and be more deceptive, because they know they’re wrong. On the other hand we just hope the facts will win on their own.


17 posted on 02/09/2011 6:55:19 AM PST by lowtaxsmallgov (This Administration has absolutely no idea how to grow an economy)
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To: lowtaxsmallgov
These are greedy scumbag lawyers trying to create another “Asbestos” like cash cow.

Most of the gas that has migrated into ground water has been doing so for Millennium. It's similar to the Gulf of Mexico. For centuries, Oil seeped out of the Sea floor naturally, mainly because the formation pressures kept building as it migrated to the surface. (Boyles Law.)

Since we have been drilling there, those pressures have been reduced and the involuntary Oil leakage from the Sea floor has mostly stopped entirely.

Fracking is a safe method of raising production potential and has is the primary reason why the Oil companies can find enough profit to keep drilling. If Fracking were to be banned, most modern drilling would cease. Simply because the yield would not justify the huge expense of drilling.

Finally, there are systems and practices in place that make it virtually impossible for the gas from over 5,000 feet below the surface to work it's way to the surface. Fracking only effects an area around the Well bore in a 50 to 100 foot radius and cannot possibly cause what these idiot Green Marxists claim.

19 posted on 02/09/2011 7:09:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: lowtaxsmallgov
As noted in original post, the anti fracking film is being shown at a school. The indoctrination of our kids is ongoing, not long ago they were showing Earth in the Balance. I believe it is vital that we talk to our kids and explain reality. I probably spend more time outside than your average American, given that I have horses and big dogs, so I want clean air and water as much as anyone. Just look at the difference in pollution between poor countries and rich countries and you have to conclude that rich is better for the environment than poor.
21 posted on 02/09/2011 7:13:17 AM PST by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: lowtaxsmallgov

I just got done watching it....Boy....I don’t know.


25 posted on 02/09/2011 7:47:31 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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