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To: r9etb
[ODH]is correct on his point, which is that the broader voting public has perception of Sarah Palin as being intellectually empty.

I never said different. I said that Palin supporters have 20 months to fight this incorrect perception. To which he started gibbering about Nixon.

It really doesn't matter at this point how that perception came about. What does matter, is that the perception really does exist.

Okay, fine, accepted. Now the question is: do you and ODH and other FReepers care about doing anything about correcting this perception? I don't believe you do. Since you are against Palin anyway, for your own reasons, the "Palin is stupid" meme suits your purposes just fine. So therefore, the Alinskyite media becomes your ally. Comfortable?

The time for Sarah Palin to start working on that (supposedly) "incorrect public perception" was two years ago.

What that tells me is that you agree with the state-run media and the establishment ruling class that Palin really is stupid. So, again, this perception comports with your beliefs, so why should you want Palin or me or anybody to try to change it?

..And she really hasn't done that.

Objection, subjective.

If she somehow scrapes out the nomination and hasn't corrected it by 10/2012, we're all screwed.

We agree here. However, I sense you think she won't, because you believe the perception is reality.

You say you don't go by sound bites, but ... her prepared speeches aren't really all that impressive either.

Your bias is showing again. "Impressive" is a subjective measure, but Palin makes a dent everywhere she goes. Every time Gov Palin speaks, there is a media frenzy. Can you say that about DeMint or Hucky or Mitt or any other potential 2012 presidential candidate?

I think her speeches are very impressive, and so do millions of other Americans. Ask yourself why that bothers you so much.

And on that score, ODH's comparison of Palin to Paul Ryan or many other potential candidates is very telling. One expects Paul Ryan to give a cogent and detailed answer to a tough economic question; whereas with Palin... her answer would not only lack detail, but ramble on in a manner similar to what we've seen here.

Paul Ryan has never run a lemonade stand, much less a town, a business, or a state. He may have good ideas, but he is a non-starter for President. Here's some subjectivity for ya: I will not vote for any presidential candidates that lack executive experience. We have that now with the pseudo-Senator Won, who was in the chamber for 143 days before running for President.

Any comparison with Ryan is irrelevant on that basis alone.

Even if Ms. Palin has a good answer in her head somewhere, her problem is it does not come out of her mouth in good order. And that makes her seem very un-serious. That's going to be a fatal flaw in the upcoming election, in which a perception of "seriousness" is going to be a very valuable asset.

I'll ignore the snark about her intelligence, and answer: "We'll see."

198 posted on 02/07/2011 11:33:36 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer; r9etb
"Objection, subjective."

No, it really isn't subjective, at all. By every measure, Palin's disapproval rating is as high, or higher, than the day of the 2008 election. On election day, there wasn't a single exit poll that showed less than 60% of the voting public believed she was qualified for the office of vice president. Her qualification perception hasn't budged off that number.

"What that tells me is that you agree with the state-run media and the establishment ruling class that Palin really is stupid."

I don't know how anyone looking objectively at the answer she gave to CBN, could regard it as smartly constructed, or keenly delivered. Is that "agreeing with the state-run media"? Perhaps, but it doesn't mean it's an unwarranted conclusion. If it looks and sounds like a duck....

"...Palin makes a dent everywhere she goes. Every time Gov Palin speaks, there is a media frenzy"

Those two sentences could be true if you replaced the word "Palin" with "Kim Kardashian". The media covers Palin for the same reason Kardashian is a multi-millionare. It's train wreck television. People who love Palin watch because she appeals to them, and people who loathe Palin watch because it entertains them. It's a win/win for the media.

Of course, there's another, perhaps more sinister reason the media pays attention to Palin - because every minute they spend covering Palin, is a minute less they have to give to covering compelling, articulate conservatives like Paul Ryan or Bob McDonnell. Palin provides the club to the media that they then use to bludgeon all conservatives. Here's their narrative - "Conservatives are intellectually challenged, inarticulate rubes and here's a two-minute story on Sarah Palin to prove it."

Palin ran a state with a population that wouldn't even make it the fourth most populated city in Texas, with a budget that is commensurate with the budget of Dallas. Would you vote for a two-term Mayor of Dallas, TX to be President?

207 posted on 02/07/2011 11:58:15 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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