Posted on 02/05/2011 7:34:31 PM PST by Racehorse
Egypt's most influential opposition group, the Muslim Brotherhood, says it will enter talks with officials on ending the country's political crisis.
The group told Reuters the talks would begin on Sunday and would assess how far the government was "ready to accept the demands of the people".
The negotiations would be the first ever to be held between the government and the officially banned Brotherhood.
President Hosni Mubarak has rejected protesters' demands that he quit now.
Mr Mubarak - who has been in office since 1981, tolerating little dissent - has said he will not stand in elections due in September.
Huge crowds have been on the streets of Cairo and other cities in the past few weeks demanding his immediate resignation and calling for democratic reforms.
The Muslim Brotherhood had previously said it would not take part in negotiations between the government and opposition groups.
But a spokesman told Reuters: "We have decided to engage in a round of dialogue to ascertain the seriousness of officials towards the demands of the people and their willingness to respond to them."
A spokesman told the AFP news agency the dialogue was also aimed at ending "foreign or regional interference" in the situation.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
If you take people who are educated and can think independently and give them a democracy they will choose freedom. If you go to a primative village and ask them to vote for a leader they will choose the witch doctor. There weren't a lot of democracies in the seventh century, which is where islam keeps it's people.
It is true LOL and I realize it is undiplomatic to say that. The media and the establishment is counting on this as; if anyone dares says this out loud the media all of a sudden becomes American and patriotic as their excuse for rallying behind a corrupt President.
There are 192 members of the UN. Of those, how many are true (or representative) democracies?
30?
Mubarak... has said he will not stand in elections due in September.Maybe because there won't be any.
Obama is a muslim plant. *shiver*
1) Did the Muslim Brotherhood change their position before or after Pres. Obama gave them legitimacy?
2) Given the Muslim belief that lying is expected if it furthers the cause of Islam, using logic is dubious.
Excellent questions we don’t know. It is obvious that Obama and Clinton are for the muslim brotherhood ‘talking’ with Mubarak. ‘Wait and see’ ‘won’t oppose’... they are staying out of it you see... < / deep sarcasm >
-—Clinton: US to Wait-and-See on Brotherhood’s Talks With Mubarak ...-—
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Clinton-US-to-Wait-and-See-on-Brotherhoods-Talks-With-Mubarak-Governement-115422434.html
-—Clinton: U.S. Won’t Oppose Egyptian Talks With Muslim Brotherhood-—
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/clinton-u-s-wont-oppose-egyptian-talks-with-muslim-brotherhood/
-—Obama/Clinton trips to Asia: Helping Muslim Brotherhood, Paving Way for Russia-—
http://bigpeace.com/smandel/2010/11/19/obamaclinton-trips-to-asia-helping-muslim-brotherhood-paving-way-for-russia/
-—Muslim Brotherhood seeks end to Israel treaty-—
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/3/muslim-brotherhood-seeks-end-to-israel-treaty/
-—Questions About Obama and The Muslim Brotherhood Lead To More Questions **UPDATED**-—
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/02/03/questions-about-obama-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-lead-to-more-questions/
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The media know exactly what is going on... they are now covering for Obama and Clinton promoting the muslim brotherhood as good guys with maybe a few radicals (See NYTimes article in post #30)
---Obama makes recess appointments, taps Robert Cole as ambassador to Syria--- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/29/AR2010122904168.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2010/12/so_much_for_bipartisanship_--.html
Recess appointments mark 2nd time Obama bypasses government ...Dec 30, 2010 The White House has announced it will directly appoint four new ambassadors .... Cairo regime in crises as riots look to aid Muslim Brotherhood ...
---Obama Nominee for Deputy Attorney General Says 9/11 Attacks Not Acts of War, Likens Them to Domestic Crimes of Murder, Rape--- http://cnsnews.com/news/article/67704
---Muslim agenda of the Obama_administration--- http://www.conservapedia.com
thanks, L!
Bad link repost.
-—Muslim_agenda_of_the_Obama_administration-—
http://www.conservapedia.com/Muslim_agenda_of_the_Obama_administration
Obama likely demanded it.
. . . . Back to the thread. - # 32 is important.
Then see # 30, # 24 , # 25.
Thanks DMDW2SS.
(. . . . bbl )
THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August
18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS,
is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive
manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the
basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS
Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
‘The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.’ (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
‘Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.’ (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
‘The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.’
(Article 11)
‘Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.’ (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
‘The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews’ usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.’ (Article 15)
‘Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
call of duty, loudly proclaiming: ‘Hail to Jihad!’. This cry will
reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah’s victory comes about.’
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
‘[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.’ (Article 13)
Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
‘Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle
[against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The
Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar
agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,
and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.’ (Article 32)
Anti-Semitic Incitement:
‘The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.’ (Article 7)
‘The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have
accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money,
they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred
revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the
French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the
revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret
organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions -
which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies
and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ...
and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the
world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge
financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them
having their finger in it.’ (Article 22)
‘Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet
expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have
finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they
will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out
in the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’.’ (Article 32)
‘The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the
circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over
the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped
for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.’
(Article 32)
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Information Division, Israel Foreign Ministry - Jerusalem
Mail all Queries to ask@israel-info.gov.il
URL: http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il
gopher://israel-info.gov.il
Just saw this on TB2, very interesting, some content on the thread, with links.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=378156
Google exec gone missing in Egypt- now suddenly turns up as opposition spokesman.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz1D1RZkCOh
Your second link doesn’t work. “Google exec gone missing in Egypt- now suddenly turns up as opposition spokesman.”
“The website declined to show this webpage” Hmmmmm....
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