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To: justsaynomore

It’s online now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iTtD8RHj_E


175 posted on 02/10/2011 10:24:03 AM PST by justsaynomore ("We the people are still in charge of this country!" - Herman Cain)
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To: justsaynomore

The gospel wasn’t preached beyond reciting the mission of NPCC which is to lead people into a growing relationship with Jesus Christ, and in the music, particularly from the Ray of Hope Choir. I have been listening to the talk shows this morning and especially on Laura Ingraham she is voicing the concern about the partnering - making people’s health into a religion - also a concern of mine, and from the FLOTUS speech she suggests that this all started because of the people. So much work has been done by those in the obesity field to initiate a social movement on this topic that is similar to the anti-smoking campaign and the use of social marketing and focus groups etc. to start a snowball effect on getting kids healthier. Once FLOTUS made this her signature issue she utilized the work that has been ongoing for many years to give public strong voice to the effort and the movement. It is in some ways similar to the Tea Party movement except this movement was initiated by the government and private foundations (robert wood johnson etc.) who are partnering with the government to raise awareness and make the issue into a crisis (over half adults overweight or obese and nearly a quarter of kids obese, how can we not act) and not by individuals concerned about their kids as FLOTUS implied. Individuals came second, once the movement was envisioned. She also made it sound like the reason Wal mart and congress acted was because of a vocal citizenry but it was actually because of a strong-arming administration. Again, then once the programs got rolling, citizens became involved and are now engaged. The question I have is whether this type of organized social movement engineered by the government is ever a good thing. The other main comparison other than tobacco is the space race, when the government urged us to act together to beat the soviets into space. But unlike competing with evil to outdo them, this is focusing on our collective health and it really leans toward blaming private industry. And yet obesity and poor health of our children does warrant some focus. I would prefer a partnership with private companies rather than forcing and strong-arming them into going along. The combined nature of the effort, governmental policy and programs along with personal responsibility makes me a little concerned about partnering with the churches. I just pray that all involved with the church seek wisdom and be careful and in fact fearful of govt. partnerships.


181 posted on 02/10/2011 1:09:28 PM PST by I am Not
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To: justsaynomore

For me, I don’t know that the details change anything I feel about this. The situation does not become any more right or wrong, depending on how it was carried out (that’s situational ethics).

“Let’s Move” is big government, socialist agenda, period. Michelle Obama’s traveling around promoting this agenda is costing taxpayers millions of dollars. Wait until it becomes a “program” that we have to pay for, like putting salad bars in schools. Wait until the program involves so many regulations that restaurants, grocery stores and farmers are put out of business.

It is part of the big picture of socialism - replace God with government. Replace parents with government and yes replace church with government. Do some homework on the ideals of socialism, and see the role of the church. They believe loyalty to God, and one’s religion, is fine as long as it does not contradict the rules put forth by government.

One of my friend’s whole arguments to me that it was okay was that Michelle Obama or other visitors could hear the Gospel, but it sounds that the truth of Jesus Christ wasn’t preached. What the congregation DID see and hear was much accolades given to a woman that believes partial term abortion is a “legitimate medical procedure”, pushing agenda that replaces God with government.

The church kept talking about bringing people in the church doors, but it seems no one was worried for the people were led astray by HER agenda and false teaching.

It’s all very black and white to me. If I went there, I would want more than answers, I would want assurances that they realize the mistake this was and are taking a different tack. If they stood by this decision, I’d be looking for a new church home, sadly.

That’s just me.


183 posted on 02/10/2011 2:47:07 PM PST by justsaynomore ("We the people are still in charge of this country!" - Herman Cain)
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