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I didn’t get to listen to the sermon this past Sunday, so I just listened to it now. It’s clear the church said “yes” as outreach to those who perhaps wouldn’t normally be accepting of the Christian message because the Christian community isn’t usually accepting of them. It’s available online for anyone who wants to hear it.

From my notes: You think you’re open-minded, you think you’re accepting, but we all settle into our own version of Christianity and can become pharisaical. Conflict between the gospel of right/wrong can conflict with the gospel of grace. Church people get really weird about conflicts—they build walls, they erect barriers. The ones that have been there for 10 years, volunteer there, put money in there are usually the ones to complain. People want to know what our policies are; I tell the staff we don’t have policies, we have conversations. Be bold, take risks, err on the side of grace. Don’t drift into Insider and away from Outsider. Don’t drift into Law and away from Grace. The first church dodged the first split by erring on the side of grace. They don’t have to act like us to become a part of us. Can’t let desire to preserve the church “like it is” get in the way of the mission to increase the kingdom. God accepted you as you were, should not make it difficult for others to come to Him.

The sermon was as sincere as any I’ve heard before, as consistent with the mission of the church as any I’ve heard before.


170 posted on 02/10/2011 9:12:54 AM PST by sesamesticks
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To: sesamesticks

Thanks sesame sticks. I attended the event and wrote a long summary for this post early this morning that hasn’t appeared yet. I am new to the site and don’t know why there would be delay. I will rewrite and post this afternoon if necessary, but wonder where my post went.


172 posted on 02/10/2011 10:13:44 AM PST by I am Not
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That sounds pretty much in line with the form letter and what others were promoting this as a matter of grace. I don’t know. Romans 6 is pretty clear about grace not being an excuse to do wrong. Socialism is as about as wrong as it gets, it is government replacing God. It’s a false teaching in a church, and the Bible’s very clear about that too.

Other questions still unanswered... if this was just a matter of lending facilites, why advertise it?

If it was a matter of outreach - (to those who wouldn’t normally visit their church) was the Gospel preached either before or after Michelle Obama’s speech? The feed went offline, did anyone hear it firsthand?


173 posted on 02/10/2011 10:14:04 AM PST by justsaynomore ("We the people are still in charge of this country!" - Herman Cain)
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To: sesamesticks

“Conflict between the gospel of right/wrong can conflict with the gospel of grace. “

How many gospels are there?


178 posted on 02/10/2011 11:19:24 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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