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To: BelleAl

That is correct, he did say that about Jesus. However, he also said that we must credit Muhammads actions with what was going on in those time and in that region....that was/is my assessment and you cannot deny that he did say that in that sermon.

And, he also said the Christians and Muslims have in common evil acts in the names of their religions. And he points to the Crusades as proof...saying that the Crusades were nothing but a land grab, where Christians killed women and children and muslims and jews, for nothing other than power and greed.


166 posted on 02/10/2011 3:45:23 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

I agree with everything you said.

A lot of the Old Testament has to be taken into context too. We tend to look at the stories in the Bible through the lens of today’s world. We are shocked by actions taken, but when we understand that these were the “norms” of their society, then we begin to understand. Andy was putting Mohammed in that same lens, but went on to say that Jesus transcends all eras, all cultures, all trends. He is truly without fault and needs no asterisk to explain any action. That puts him above all others, without equal.

His comparison with the earlier “Christian” church to some Islamic leaders today, I also can’t deny. His direct quote from a Medieval pope ordering the slaughter all who don’t adhere to the faith doesn’t sound much different than many imams today. They were words that would not come from the mouth of Jesus. That was his point.


186 posted on 02/10/2011 4:43:35 PM PST by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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