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Judge rules healthcare reform unconstitutional
www.reuters.com ^ | 1/31/2011 | Tom Brown

Posted on 01/31/2011 1:11:55 PM PST by rxsid

"Judge rules healthcare reform unconstitutional

By Tom Brown

MIAMI | Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:28pm EST

MIAMI (Reuters) - A judge in Florida on Monday became the second judge to declare President Barack Obama's healthcare reform law unconstitutional, in the biggest legal challenge yet to federal authority to enact the law.

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson, appointed to the bench by President Ronald Reagan in 1983, ruled that the reform law's so-called "individual mandate" went too far in requiring that Americans start buying health insurance in 2014 or pay a penalty.

"Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire act must be declared void. This has been a difficult decision to reach, and I am aware that it will have indeterminable implications," Vinson wrote.

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More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-usa-healthcare-ruling-idUSTRE70U6RY20110131?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: areyoublind; healthcare; judgevinson; obamacare; vinson
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To: Notwithstanding

PGFWABF”

I have no earthly idea what this means. But at this stage, I can only say “right on!” and throw in a *&$^@$$$ yeah!!!!


21 posted on 01/31/2011 1:40:12 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: rxsid

“...difficult decision to reach, and I am aware that it will have indeterminable implications...”

Hope his thought process doesn’t consider indirect consequences when rendering decisions. It sure didn’t bother Congress and the president when this bill was past and signed into law leaving administrators to fill in the blanks.


22 posted on 01/31/2011 1:40:23 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: rxsid

Talking point: all GOP attorney generals


23 posted on 01/31/2011 1:40:54 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: rxsid

24 posted on 01/31/2011 1:43:19 PM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: rxsid

The Supreme Court may end up deciding the issue and I agree the entire law is an affront to our nation’s concept of limited governmental powers.

It is all the same imperative to repeal all of Obamacare ASAP.


25 posted on 01/31/2011 1:44:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rxsid

Unfortunately, the Constitution says whatever 5 out of 9 Supreme Court Justices say it says.

So far, two Clinton appointed federal judges have ruled that Obamacare is constitutional and two Republican appointed Judges (one Bush appointee and one Reagan appointee) have held that it is unconstitutional.

Ultimately, the issue is going to be decided whichever way Anthony Kennedy decides to vote on the Supreme Court.


26 posted on 01/31/2011 1:44:34 PM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: kennedy

Related?


27 posted on 01/31/2011 1:46:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: kennedy
The left hates the mandates too.... I am guessing it will be unamimous at the supreme court to throw out the mandates.

The only thing that will be debatable will be if the whole thing must be thrown out (which it must in my opinion) or whether the mandate can be severed from the rest.

The reason the mandate CAN NOT be severed from the rest... simply everyone would drop their insurance tomorrow ... and wait till they got sick or hurt then buy insurance the insurance companies are required to sell by law.

28 posted on 01/31/2011 1:49:42 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: ConservativeDude

PGFWABF! = Praise God from Whom all blessings flow!


29 posted on 01/31/2011 1:54:16 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Actually, the Democrats removed severability from the bill (something that they NORMALLY add to all bills is that if any part is found unconstitutional the remainder is still in force) was because they didn’t want any changes made and that part had been left out... anyway... due to their acting so speedily and an oversight if ANY of the bill is found unconstitutional (not JUST the part under discussion) it ALL goes away.


30 posted on 01/31/2011 2:00:22 PM PST by KenD
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To: rxsid

WTF...said Obama when he heard the news


31 posted on 01/31/2011 2:06:15 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

President Reagan’s legacy lives on.
God bless Judge Vinson and God Bless our lifetime’s greatest president: Ronald Wilson Reagan!


32 posted on 01/31/2011 2:08:50 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: KenD
Two things. Mandate is not in effect yet, so nothing to stay. Issue is whether he would stay the enforcement of the other provisions of the Act that are already being put into effect; not clear on this issue.

I read that the plaintiffs (States) will petition the Court (or Appellate Court) to stay enforcement of all of the Act due to the ruling that the whole thing is void.

Was ruled void not just because it lacked severability clause (apparently a mistake at the last minute - got dropped - whoops), but because the mandate was the primary catalyst to the entire financing and enforcement of the thing - the judge ruled that without the mandate, the rest fails by its own terms.

Nice strong case for our side. Would hope it will help expedite Sup. Ct. review now that there are 2 cases for and 2 against at the federal level (but on slightly different arguments).

Mainstream media will be focused on Egypt tonight- nothing to see here. Just another wacky Reagan appointed activist judge!

(They will, however, mention that when our gas is $5 per gallon, it is not because the Obama Administration has all but shut down oil production in the US - they will blame the Egypt for that too!)

33 posted on 01/31/2011 2:13:49 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Related?

Nope. I'm not related to the Massachusetts lot either.

My Kennedy ancestors are Scots-Irish. They came over to the U.S. in the 1700s. They came to Texas back in the 1840s.

Kennedy used to be a respectable name until the Massachusetts lot tainted it.

34 posted on 01/31/2011 2:16:41 PM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It will be SO SWEET if Nancy threw it all away... FOR NOTHING!

ROFL!


35 posted on 01/31/2011 2:18:52 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: redgolum

My exact question. We’ll have to wait and see.


36 posted on 01/31/2011 2:24:36 PM PST by lbryce
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To: rxsid

“I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that ‘if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of the 78-page ruling Monday.


37 posted on 01/31/2011 2:29:38 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Republicans may have helped drive the economy into the ditch, but Obama is driving it off the cliff.)
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To: arderkrag

That will be ME! (Jumping for joy~~~~)


38 posted on 01/31/2011 2:31:07 PM PST by Buddygirl
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The left hates the mandates too.

Maybe, but Democrat judges love them.

Like I pointed out, both Clinton appointees that have heard the case so far have held that the Obamanation healthcare deform is constitutional.

I don't think there is any chance that Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan or Sotomayor are going to vote to overturn Obama's biggest "accomplishment" in office. That means that Kennedy is pretty much going to have the deciding vote (assuming that there is no change in the composition of the Supreme Court in the minimum of two years it will take the case to wind its way through the appellate courts).

39 posted on 01/31/2011 2:31:48 PM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: Notwithstanding

Brilliant, and appropriate!!!!


40 posted on 01/31/2011 2:34:19 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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