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To: Forty-Niner

To my knowledge no birth records from Hawaii have ever beeen released.

The COLB that was posted on Obama’s website shows that Obama is the son of a non citizen father born in Hawaii. That in itself is prima Facia that he is not a NBC, however, if I recall correctly, the COLB was a fabrication posted on Obama’s website by some one other than an offical, and then adopted by Obama’s election team as real.

Canter’s statement above begs the question.....the Constitutional requirenment for Presidential eligibility is not mere citizenship, but a special quality of citizenship, one that encompasses the aspects of both jus solis and jus sanquines....that is birth on the soil to citizen parents.

Yes I’m talking about Natural Born Citizenship.....

We know that Obama fails the ju sanquines portion of Natural Born Citizenship because of his, as the COLB states, “african” father. It’s the elephant that is sitting in the middle of the parlor that the politicians and the media are struggling mightily to ignore. Sorry I see it despite their insistence of it’s non existence.

The question of whether Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, as he claims, to satisify the jus solis aspect of NBC is, at it stands, unproven, unless you accept the website posted COLB as genuine. In any case, Obama’s birthplace is a moot question given his father’s lack of American citizenship.

The American Kennel Club requires that a canines’ parents, both dog and bitch, be proven and documented individuals of a specific (the same) breed in order to be considered for competition in the doggy arena......

With his non-citizen father Obama is a mutt, and not eligible to be the Chief Executive of these here United States. It matters not if he was or wasn’t born in one of the 50 kennels that constitute the US of A. His father may be a Cocker Spaniel (Lady), but his father was a Tramp.....


Where in the Constitution does it say that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen? Which Article, which Section, which clause?

Where in the US Code of Laws does it say that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen.

Why did the Indiana Court of Appeals rule just the opposite with specific regard to Barack Obama’s eligibility to receive Indiana’s Electoral College votes: “Based on the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 of the Constitution and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
—Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels

Why is there no US Supreme Court decision stating that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen?

Why does the current US Code of Laws define a “Citizen of the United States at Birth” as someone born within the United States of American and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Why is there no US Supreme Court decision that differentiates between a natural born citizen and a citizen of the United States at Birth?

Why has the current Supreme Court rejected hearing any of twelve Obama Eligibility Appeals that have reached the High Court and rejected them all without even one word of comment other than “Denied?”


93 posted on 01/23/2011 12:54:56 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
rhetorical question n. A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.

Why do you continue to ask rhetorical questions?
You sound like Jan.

94 posted on 01/23/2011 1:24:56 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jamese777

“Where in the Constitution does it say that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen? Which Article, which Section, which clause?”

The term Natural Born Citizen is the requirement for Presidential eligibility and an NBC is by it’s own definition “born in country to two citizen parents. It is a unique term with relevence in reference to the Presidency only, and has no impact in any other area of US Law.

The definition of is......is.

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“Where in the US Code of Laws does it say that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen.”

Where does it say anything about NBC except that it is a Presidental eligibility requirement? The Constitution is not a dictionary.....Because you are ignorant of the references such as Law of Nations which the Founders used in writing the Constitution does not change their clear meaning and intent in their use of the term NBC ....or did you think the term just appeared out of thin air, and the Founders intended that future Americans should define the term to a contempory meaning...LOLOLOLOLOLOL.....

BTW where does it say NBC does not mean two citizen parents as understood by jurists in the 18tn century? Please cite the Article etc......LOLOLOLOLOL

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“Why did the Indiana Court of Appeals rule just the opposite with specific regard to Barack Obama’s eligibility to receive Indiana’s Electoral College votes: “Based on the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 of the Constitution and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
—Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels”

The Ankeny case is one you love to mis cite.... sorry pal the case is not about defining the term NBC. That it incorrectly defined the term NBC in the main body of the decision (which it corrected in the footnotes as you are well aware of) while ruling on the Governors responsiblities in certifying election results is unfortunate and consigns this decision to the dustbins of juris prudence.....again LOLOLOLOL

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Why is there no US Supreme Court decision stating that two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen?

This one is easy! Because until Obama, all Presidents, other than those grandfathered in at the start of the Nation, met the definition of NBC and there has been no reason to rule on requirements met! FOOL! LOLOLOL.

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Why does the current US Code of Laws define a “Citizen of the United States at Birth” as someone born within the United States of American and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Seems right to me.....question.... what does that have to do with the term NATURAL BORN CITIZEN? Being a “Citizen at birth” is not the Constitutional requirement....being a Natural Born Citizen is....

Answer.... Nothing they are two different things........( While an NBC is a born citizen a born citizen may or may not be an NBC....depends upon the parents citizenship statis....) Do you have a problem with complex ideas/thoughts?

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Why is there no US Supreme Court decision that differentiates between a natural born citizen and a citizen of the United States at Birth?

The term NBC has been defined by various courts throughout our nations history as.... “born in country to two citizen parents,” while deciding other questions of citizenship....

Until Obama there has not been a reason to apply the standard of NBC as it relates to the Presidency! You have a learning disability right?

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Why has the current Supreme Court rejected hearing any of twelve Obama Eligibility Appeals that have reached the High Court and rejected them all without even one word of comment other than “Denied?”

The US Supreme Court is a Court of Judicial Review and hears very few of the cases filed before it.

The very nature of a sitting President installed despite being Constitutionally eligible constitutes a Constitutional Crisis that will have represussions in the future years of our Nation. It is no wonder that the Court is choosing the case it will hear carefully......only 12? Don’t worry there are still a bunch in the pipeline.....I’m sure one with the brief the Court wants to see will eventually be brought forward......Good thing this isn’t the Catholic Church....Questions of Catholic Canon Law take Centuries to decide......LOLOLOLOL.....

Really Jamsee boy you should be ashamed of bringing the same weak sh*t up on every NBC thread.

Oh well, its good to see you made it through the New Years celebtration and that your eyes are still brown......

Don’t waste either your, mine or other FReepers time in replying with any more of your lame drivel......thanks in advance....


108 posted on 01/23/2011 8:08:53 PM PST by Forty-Niner (Dump Diane Feinstein 2012!)
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