1. AT THIS JUNCTURE, I don't think it really matters. I CANNOT IMAGINE SCOTUS invalidating the 2008 election results in 2011. Even if prima facie evidence was produced proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Barry was born in Kenya, Indonesia, or the planet Zorgon. Regardless of the merits, SCOTUS would not even issue a writ of certiorari on such a case. It would be too hot for them to handle.
2. WHAT WOULD BE FAR MORE PRACTICAL AT THIS JUNCTURE would be to lobby the 25 Republican-controlled legislatures to enact a reform in the election law that mandated that candidates for President and Vice President be forced to produce their "long form" birth certificate prior to being allowed to be placed on a ballot for that state. That is something that is perfectly constitutional and is perfectly doable. If even one state, like Texas or Arizona, was to actually get such a law passed, it would force the bastard to release it himself. And his refusal to do so or attempts to take it to court to have it ruled unconstitutional would generate a firestorm that even the MSM would not be able to cover up.
THEREFORE, my suggestion is, if you live in a state with a Republican controlled legislature and a Republican governor and Secretary of State, work on lobbying your legislators to enact that type of legislation. Spending your energies on that would be a whole lot more productive than anything else you could do.
Dela Cruz is spokesperson for the governor and has no better command of the language than to confuse conspirator with conspiracy theorist.
Utter crap and they know it. To the PRIVATE citizen I can see this application of law, to a person who would be commander in chief, president of our country he has NO SUCH PRIVACY PROMISE....he has a specific CONSTITUTIONAL mandate to meet which he has NOT proven fully and that means show your proof. If this document exists he should be forced to show it to satisfy the constitutional requirement.
Absolutely, and preferably a law that also requires that the TRANSACTION LOGS for those records be required as well, which would show the provenance and authenticity of the birth record as well (protecting from forgery and/or tampering with the record).
This is a bill that I’m suggesting people recommend to their state legislatures: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2656925/posts
This is disgusting to see the HI AG’s office lie for Obama. Hawaii’s UIPA requires that records created or maintained for the purpose of informing the public be disclosed to anybody who requests them. So when Fukino “informed the public” regarding Obama’s documents in public annoucements those records automatically became public records.
The idea is that if public officials are going to make public statements about what’s on a BC then they darn well have to show the proof for what they’re saying.
The HI AG knows that and is lying his fool head off about Obama’s records not being discloseable. As soon as Fukino made those 2 public statements, in Oct 2008 and in July 2009, she made all of the referenced records PUBLIC BY LAW.
Liars.
LOL...how conveeeenient. Abercrombie found out there is no valid certificate, so now he is hiding behind the usual refuge of cornered Liberals, Privacy.
Interesting this comes out the day after Rush gets on the case.
I'm guessing there are enough of We, the People, sufficiently interested and invested in our government following the Constitution, to petition the President to reaffirm his commitment to his sworn oath and his campaign promises of transparency and produce his historical documents for us and posterity.
Too bad we simple citizens can't compel him to do the right thing now and show us what every other American has to show for far less serious privileges than the Presidency.
None the less, we should each be able to make our state certify that the candidates who are on our ballots meet the Constitutional qualifications to run for those offices.
Makes sense. You can’t release what doesn’t exist.
The fact remains that the PREVIOUS GOVERNOR said he locked it away
so.... which one of them is LYING!!!???
How dumb do you have to be to NOT know that BO’s, or any person’s BC is not available to the public?
Where has Gov. Abercrombie been for the last three years??? Is the rest of the Democrat Party as out to lunch as he is....wait! I know the answer to that.
Methinks the governor has stepped in it, bigtime.
Seriously folks, it’s time to run this phony out on a rail.
so this basically boils down to the boy won't sign SF-180... is that it???I disagree on your #1:
It would be too hot for them [SCOTUS] to handle
It's SCOTUS’ job to handle "hot" constitutional issues. They already refuse to take what they decide to be trivial cases.
IOW, they don’t want to deal with the cases they deem too hot or too trivial. What does the country do to resolve legal and constitutional issues? Shall we have three Supreme Courts, one for trivial, one for garden variety and one for hot cases?
SCOTUS cowardice is leading the constitutional shredders to do what they please and eventually when communists take over, there will be SCOT SINO and we can kiss the Republic good bye.
I agree with your #2. Again, cowardice may come to play. Republicans in state and federal levels should grow some spines and other body parts by requiring eligibility proof for anyone who wants a place on the ballot.
As I always believed, 0b0z0 won't be running in '12. A good reason could very well be the fear of some states will get it done and won't place him in their ballots.
Does privacy laws prevent disclosure of the lack of documentation?
I don’t doubt that Hawaiian officials are accurately reporting that the document they saw says that AKA Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.
“Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth was in effect from 1911 until 1972 and allowed someone who was born outside the Hawaiian Islands to be registered as though he were born in Hawaii. Under that law, someone simply would have presented herself to the Hawaiian authorities and declared that the child was born in Hawaii.
...If the records of his birth are an affidavit filed by relatives with no hospital validating the affidavit the question of AKA Obama's eligibility remains open and he might not have been born in Hawaii.
The fact that no State has done this, speaks volumes.
There is no way they can conceal this information, without the cooperation of the Establishment Republicans.
"You have nothing to fear from this man Obama."J. McCain
Natural Law, not HI Law, prohibits release of original long form BC because it doesn’t exist, pure and simple!