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Changing My Mind On A Sarah Palin Presidential Run (Must read!)
Mediaite ^ | January 18, 2011 | John Ziegler

Posted on 01/18/2011 9:34:34 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Once-Ler
Yet you RESPOND.

Begad! The Palin Offense!

You initiated this contact, and started with insult at that. People address me, I respond. Nevertheless, I hereby give you the last word, under the policy of noblesse oblige. I shall mercifully ignore you hereafter.

141 posted on 01/18/2011 12:59:59 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bfl


142 posted on 01/18/2011 1:15:58 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: fluffdaddy
The idea that there is something uniquely off-putting about Sarah that makes her potential appeal more limited that any other conservative candidate flies in the face of all the available evidence.

It sounds like you're suggesting that her prospects would improve if more people met her, or otherwise got to know her.

143 posted on 01/18/2011 1:25:03 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: raisetheroof
I love FR! Nice to have a disagreement without lots of cursing and namecalling. :-)

Respectfully, I disagree. Palin is red meat for the conservative base - she shores up other pols credentials with them, while any negatives that she brings to the table only count with people who wouldn't vote Republican, anyway.

In a real election? She do a great job of firing up the base (just look at FR to see that). Unfortunately, that's only about 40% of the vote. I don't know this, but I'd guess that her negatives with liberals are pretty high. Not going to be many crossover voters for her - unlike with RINOs in 2008.

So, she's got to carry independents - people who, more or less, swing with the breeze. Can she do that, with a constant littany of hatred being spewed at her by the MSM? I don't think so.

If the vote was held next week, I think that she'd get 46, maybe 48%. BO (even as battered as he is right now) takes the election.

Now later on? 2016? 2020? You betcha. Voters have short memories. Especially if she rehabilitates herself, has most of her viewes proven "right" - "I told you we needed to repeal Obamacare, and look how bad things are!" or "I told you we needed to repeal Obamacare. You voters did (cheers) and look how GREAT things are (louder cheers). It's a great day in America! (bedlam, standing ovation)"

Frankly, I think that Palin is doing a great job right where she is for now - a lightning rod for the left's attacks.

But, that's just my opinion. Everybody has one. :-)

144 posted on 01/18/2011 1:25:25 PM PST by wbill
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To: backwoods-engineer

I love Sarah Palin you cluless blockhead


145 posted on 01/18/2011 1:30:55 PM PST by Rippin
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To: GOYAKLA

Palin 2012: when the student is ready, the teacher appears.


146 posted on 01/18/2011 1:46:45 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: fluffdaddy
Let's face it, there is a large number of voters (about 42 per cent of the electorate) who will never, under any circumstances, vote for a conservative candidate.

Source, please?

147 posted on 01/18/2011 1:56:02 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I shall mercifully ignore you hereafter.

Yeah...like I'm going to fall for the "HAND" for the 3rd time...You can't help it.

And if I don't hear from you in 5 minutes...thank you for mercifully ignoring me yet again, instead of explaining why you prefer Obama to Romney, on a thread about Palin.

fnord

148 posted on 01/18/2011 2:04:48 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: 09Patriot
I have no idea who is the best candidate.

I can tell you who is the worst - Mitt Romney abd his boy-mongering amen corner.

149 posted on 01/18/2011 2:34:20 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: backwoods-engineer

Please refrain from pinging us to posts that you don’t agree with.

Especially when it involves posters who have 8 years seniority over you and a clean record.


150 posted on 01/18/2011 4:00:27 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not me and I live in Santa Cruz - I am the ONLY one here that’s pro Palin. Sure is fun.


151 posted on 01/18/2011 4:55:13 PM PST by tweakDU
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To: tweakDU

I’ll bet there’s more support for Gov. Palin there than you can imagine, but everyone knows better than to talk about it.


152 posted on 01/18/2011 4:59:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: tweakDU

No, you’re not. My bff lives in Santa Cruz and is a huge Palin supporter. Has a bumper sticker on her car, is a FB friend of the Governor’s, etc.


153 posted on 01/18/2011 6:32:30 PM PST by SallyH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey... there’s quite a few of us Cali’s who do support Sarah.


154 posted on 01/18/2011 6:43:05 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: neverdem
McGovern got 37% in ‘72, Carter got 41% in ‘80, Mondale got about 41% in 198,Dukakis got 45% in ‘88. Even in epic defeats there is a floor under the Dem candidate. That floor is a good proxy for the percentage of the electorate conservatives can't reach until sometime after the lion lies down with the lamb and hell freezes over.

McGovern's floor was significantly lower than usual, at least in part, because his opponent was no conservative. There were any number of progressively inclined voters who voted for Nixon but could not vote for Ronald Reagan eight years later. Nixon (Mr. wage and price controls, affirmative action and detente) was part of the progressive Republican tradition and he had a broader potential constituency than any candidate contemporary conservatives would tolerate. Carter would have done better without John Anderson who got 6% by drawing people who loathed Carter but couldn't stomach a conservative. Mondale lagged a bit behind the normal rock bottom because of special circumstances (he was a hopeless politician and RR was himself).

All in all 42% is a pretty good estimate of the proportion of voters no conservative can reach barring truly extraordinary circumstances.

155 posted on 01/18/2011 7:21:25 PM PST by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: fluffdaddy
All in all 42% is a pretty good estimate of the proportion of voters no conservative can reach barring truly extraordinary circumstances.

By the economy alone, we live in interesting times. Thanks for replying.

156 posted on 01/18/2011 7:41:17 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: patriot preacher; wtc911
[wtc911] Not a single word describing her qualifications to actually do the job. No need to wonder why.

No, indeed not. Most FReepers .... know that she was the Mayor of a town and the Governor of a State. And, if that isn’t “enough,” most FReepers take into account that she has FAR more executive experience than the current occupant.......

Well, that kinda isn't what wtc was slyly hinting at. (wtc, please grow a backbone and tell us what you really mean, instead of all this slicker-than-pond-scum hint-dropping and arch allusion. I mean, it really gets old, okay?)

He/she means that Sarah doesn't have as much time-in-office as Mitt Romney, who is wtc's and the Bush family's favorite Judas horse who'll bring the conservatives back to the RNC Aristocracy stable.

Then Mittens will stab them all in the back, again and again, like Poppy Bush did ...... "rising above" principles, to apply the vision of a "statesman" in a "leaderly" and "pragmatic" way, to "meet the practical challenges of the real (="us big, you little") world".

Want a Bilderberg/Bohemian Grove/CFR Goodfella, vote for Mittens. And don't talk about Sarah, she'll just spoil Mittens's chances by making him look like the soiled, shopworn, counterfeit goods he is.

157 posted on 01/19/2011 3:43:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: JaguarXKE

She can run and do it all from Alaska, and she wins in a walk.


158 posted on 01/19/2011 4:06:12 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Already nominated for President. Who do you believe she should choose for the VP candidate?

Well, anyone with enough Senate experience to look like a good VP choice is going to be "old" to you, maybe even "used-up".

Personally, I favor a Fred Thompson/Sarah Palin ticket, on the theory that people know they'd get one real President ready to go for now, and another who'll be ready in four years. It'd be a 12-year ticket, IOW. Maybe Sarah can do it by herself at the top of the ticket, she certainly has the moxie, but she'll need help, and Fred could help her a lot on the bottom of the ticket, because as a VP candidate he'd be game-day ready from the git.

VP candidates? Lugar too associated with the Bush crowd, too compromised, ACU ratings slumping. Other GOP senators? Not enough name recognition, except ex-senator Rick Santorum, who brings the hatefest liabilities with him that Sarah also suffers from (gays hate his guts for having morals; after they beat him by throwing San Francisco bathhouse money at his opponent [better use gloves with that, buddy], the scumbags gloated in real time on the Net over his little girl's crying while daddy made his concession speech).

Who else we got? John Kyl's certainly conservative enough, but he's been in McCain's shadow and hasn't enough name recognition. Bill Frist? Compromiser. Rick Perry? God save us from that phony-talkin' light-loafered RiNO goobernor! Richard Shelby? I dunno, does anyone know him outside Alabama? Ditto the Virginia and Carolina Republicans. Mel Martinez is bright green. Mitch McConnell, old, tired, and sold-out, the very emblem of K Street.

Who else?

Tim Pawlenty? Who's he? Michelle? Too much like Sarah, we need balance. J.C. Watts? I dunno, kick his name around a bit. How conservative is he?

159 posted on 01/19/2011 4:11:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

She will be in Reno on Jan 29 at a big function, but it’s probably too early...


160 posted on 01/19/2011 4:12:50 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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