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To: Cardhu
“Blood libel” was not a phrase used by anti-Semites; it was a term used to describe the ACTIONS of anti-Semites, ascribing group guilt and sinister motivation to a fictitious crime.

Please try to follow, “libel” is a falsehood, one does not usually say that they are engaged in libel when ginning up hate against a group. Do you understand that?

The “abysmal lack of knowledge” seems to be on YOUR part.

If Palin is a “perceived anti-Semite” then the person with the supposed perception is absolutely deluded and as confused and ignorant as you are.

630 posted on 01/12/2011 3:40:27 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
“Blood libel” was not a phrase used by anti-Semites; it was a term used to describe the ACTIONS of anti-Semites, ascribing group guilt and sinister motivation to a fictitious crime

Good luck, teach. This batch of students don't know what they don't know

641 posted on 01/12/2011 4:11:10 PM PST by hcmama
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To: allmendream; PhiloBedo
· “Blood libel” was not a phrase used by anti-Semites; it was a term used to describe the ACTIONS of anti-Semites, ascribing group guilt and sinister motivation to a fictitious crime. Please try to follow, “libel” is a falsehood, one does not usually say that they are engaged in libel when ginning up hate against a group. Do you understand that? The “abysmal lack of knowledge” seems to be on YOUR part. If Palin is a “perceived anti-Semite” then the person with the supposed perception is absolutely deluded and as confused and ignorant as you are.

This is the problem when some people cannot separate their religion from politics. They apply the same lack of logic and reason which is essential for belief to their politics and in their mind the two become inseparable.

Name calling and hatred is not a substitute for fact.

You obviously think you know more than the Jewish groups listed below - delusion is not a good thing in discussions or politics.

A NAZI POSTER

… the lie that Jews used the blood of Christian babies to bake Passover Matzoahs,.

Palin is not Jewish - she is not the victim, Gabrielle Giffords, is the victim and is Jewish.

the president of the pro-Israel, pro-peace Jewish lobby J Street, Jeremy Ben-Ami, said he was “saddened by Governor Palin’s use of the term ‘blood libel,’” adding that he hopes “she will choose to retract her comment AND apologize“:

Jewish groups are taking offense to Palin’s choice of the term. Noting that accusations of blood libel have been “directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries,” the National Jewish Democratic Council condemned Palin’s use of the term:

This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries — and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today. <...>

****** We hope that Governor Palin will recognize, when it is brought to her attention, that the term “blood libel” brings back painful echoes of a very dark time in our communal history when Jews were falsely accused of committing heinous deeds. When Governor Palin learns that many Jews are pained by and take offense at the use of the term, we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words.

Blood Libel - The blood libel is a false accusation that Jews sacrifice Christian children either to use the blood for various "medicinal" purposes or to prepare Passover Matzoth (unleavened bread) or for vengeance and mock crucifixions. It is one of the central fables of Anti-Semitism of the older (middle ages) type. The blood libel is a phenomenon of medieval and modern Christian anti-Semitism, but spread to the Middle East as early as 1775, when there was a blood libel in Hebron. A second blood libel occurred in Damascus in 1840 and one occurred in Cyprus in the same year. As the blood libel was the subject of folk ballads and literature, it was not simply a religious superstition in Europe, but a staple of popular culture, like most anti-Semitic prejudices.

Blood libels in the both the West and the East were generally occasions for large-scale persecution and judicial murders of Jews, as well as the basis for expulsions and pogroms. There have been about 150 cases of blood libel that were actually tried by Catholic authorities, and many other rumored cases that never came to trial.

The enduring nature of the blood libel is one of its most remarkable features. It was an invention of the pagans. It was revived and exploited in medieval Christian superstition, later promoted deliberately by the counter-reformation and the Inquisition, By the 19th century, much of the "old" anti-Semitism of the medieval period had passed from the world, but the libel persisted. It has been transplanted to the United States and the belief flourishes in Muslim countries as well. Investigations, instigations and enforcement had been transferred in part from the Roman Catholic Church to lay authorities: Tsarist police, Polish police and even New York State Troopers.

What you or I think is immaterial - what the people outside of this forum think will be the deciding factor.

658 posted on 01/12/2011 5:11:22 PM PST by Cardhu
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