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Tom Hoefling: Who is really to blame for the Tucson Massacre?
AIPNews.com ^ | January 9, 2011 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 01/09/2011 12:37:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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41 posted on 01/09/2011 2:17:24 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: EternalVigilance; caddie
He is blameless because he is merely a product of his environment.

You didn't read Post #20. That was a statement generated from what the poster called "Let's noodle this out".

If Islam raises children to believe it's okay to murder non-believers, then the same thing can happen in Tucson where a young man doesn't learn that his culture is/was based on a belief in God that says murder in a sin.

42 posted on 01/09/2011 2:21:08 PM PST by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I expect the gun control nutjobs will be out in force this week as usual after a tragedy. They are feeling left out.


43 posted on 01/09/2011 2:22:32 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: EternalVigilance

The gunman - the young 22 y.o. man is to blame - no one else - nothing else...


44 posted on 01/09/2011 2:30:07 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay

So, using your logic, I’m guessing you don’t think the imams bear any responsibility for the actions of young suicide bombers, right?


45 posted on 01/09/2011 2:36:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance
"leftwing media and political elites are making a sickening spectacle of themselves as they finger-point and try to shift and affix blame"

True....for those of us with more than two active brain cells.

However, when you look at the bulk of the Democrat Party support base, they believe ONLY and FULLY what their State Run Media tells them.

Look at the two year run of Palin hit pieces we've experienced to date, and even those buffoons on FR who think Palin is unelectable because she's too "polarizing".....I rest my case.

46 posted on 01/09/2011 2:38:26 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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What if they shooter had been black? What do you think we’d be hearing from the State Run Media in THAT case?


47 posted on 01/09/2011 2:39:17 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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I’m not a Palin fan. And it doesn’t have anything to do with her “electability.” So you’re probably talking to the wrong person on that score.


48 posted on 01/09/2011 2:44:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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To: bereanway

These people do not realize just how ugly they look.


49 posted on 01/09/2011 2:45:48 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Rep. Steve King - 5th Iowa - is my current heartthrob.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"I’m not a Palin fan. And it doesn’t have anything to do with her “electability.”

Was not directed at YOU; just at those who have PDS.

50 posted on 01/09/2011 2:48:49 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1

Understood.


51 posted on 01/09/2011 2:59:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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To: bgill

Bingo.
Unless somebody can show me a TRUE co-conspirator, not something from a feverish mind, I’m sticking with Loughner as the ONLY PERSON TO BLAME.

Go ahead and autopsy his political and moral leanings, but every person is responsible for their own actions. Looking for other actors to pin this on is just stupid and counter-productive.


52 posted on 01/09/2011 3:09:35 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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And still, the Left remains anti-God and anti-unalienable right to life.

You reap what you sow, and the Left has been sowing destruction in our society for more than a generation.


53 posted on 01/09/2011 3:22:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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Do you believe the teachings of Mohommed, or the Islamic culture, or the virulent rantings of hate-mongering imams, are in any way responsible for the actions of the suicide bomber, or does the responsibility lie solely with the one who goes “bang”?

Just curious.


54 posted on 01/09/2011 3:26:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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The young man is psychotic - it would not have mattered much had he been raised in a Convent... He has had a ‘psychotic break’ as evidenced by the statements of others about the severity of his actions in recent weeks... He was deranged enough as it was - but this kind of psychotic break is well documented... His schooling in AZ has little or nothing to do with his actions. IT IS HIS BRAIN Structure and Function...

Poor schooling has a bad effect on people with normally functioning brains... but those prone to malfunctions in brain physiology by virtue of genetic inheritance — influenced perhaps by drugs — it is the pending flaw in their brain functioning that matters...

Manic Depression (BiPolar), Schizophrenia or other serious psychological maladies of the brain respect no boundaries of upbringing. It happens...


55 posted on 01/09/2011 3:34:58 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay

Wow. That’s a pretty detailed diagnosis. So, “not guilty,” right?


56 posted on 01/09/2011 3:52:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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There is psychosis and then there is fake psychosis ... this dude doesn’t seem to be faking it ... the evidence is already plentiful... a sudden deep break after months and years of extremely increasing odd behavior...

Personally - crazy or not — I don’t care if they shoot him via firing squad tomorrow ... I’m not posing a legal defense - but psychosis is real...

Crazy as hell people do dastardly things without help or influence from others... Their mind does not work like yours or mine ... their mind is broken... screwed up - it is wired wrong ... a.k.a. - whacko... Loco.... Think Jeffery Dahmer but not quite as off the charts...

Do some reading...


57 posted on 01/09/2011 4:39:16 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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I already know the subject well, having had close family members so afflicted.

And yet the main point of the article stands: the shooter and the Left are alike in that they don’t fear God and they don’t respect innocent human life.

Which I guess shows the truth in the old saying, “liberalism is a mental disease.”


58 posted on 01/09/2011 4:48:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! -- Samuel Adams)
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I can agree with that analogy ...

Leftists as with Islamo Fascists a.k.a. Al Qaeda are CULTS not unlike the more commonly known Jim Jones Kool Aid variety.

There a people who are susceptible to being convinced to become a CULT MEMBER... A Hallmark - They ‘believe’ despite strong and easily obtainable evidence to the contrary. It is similar to those among us who are easily hypnotized... some of us can easily be put under the ‘spell’ and many cannot..

Political Leftism is a CULT... plain and simple...


59 posted on 01/09/2011 5:15:58 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: EternalVigilance
Who is really to blame for the Tucson Massacre?

The man who was squeezing the trigger!

60 posted on 01/10/2011 1:20:17 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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