Posted on 01/08/2011 4:45:31 PM PST by markomalley
The man linked to the shooting today of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others is 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner, the Associated Press reported.
Police have surrounded a house at 7700 N. Soledad Ave., which is the address listed by a man with the same name on a variety of online accounts and in the volunteer registry for the 2010 Tucson Festival of Books. The home is near West Magee Road and North Thornydale Road on the northwest side, about five miles from the shooting scene.
A former classmate of Loughner at Pima Community College said he was “obviously very disturbed.”
“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.
Sorenson doesn’t recall if he ever made any threats or uttered political statements but he was very disruptive, she said. He was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class, said Sorenson, a Tucson resident.
MySpace, YouTube and Facebook accounts maintained by Loughner suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary, Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View High School and Pima Community College.
The online accounts also contain bizarre discussions of a new currency and literacy, as well as threatening and despairing messages.
“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me?..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”
In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency.
“I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”
He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a written message on YouTube, Loughner said: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”
In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,” Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.
In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.”
He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.
In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”
“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”
In a youtube.com video dated Dec. 15, entitled “Introduction: Jared Loughner” the accused gunman describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army. The Army, however, said it rejected Lougher as a recruit in 2008.
Loughner’s youtube video makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” a reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.
“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.
“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”
First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson, said Loughner applied to enlist in December 2008 and was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical. But “he was found to be unqualified so he never joined the Army,” Homme said.
He declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.
Jared Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, according to on-line court records.
In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff's Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.
One year later, in October 2008, Loughner was charged with a "local charge" in Marana Municipal Court, that charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.
Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It's unclear what the exact charge was.
Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade.
Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.
“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”
Ryan Miller, 19, was a sophomore at Mountain View when Loughner was a senior.
He said Loughner was seemed like a normal kid.
“I was in shock,” he said, describing his reaction to the shooting. “I didn’t know what possessed someone our age to do something like this.”
Now that GW is not blamed for the sun rising and setting looks like the DNC rat types have found a new fall guy err.... gal. Sorry dummies it only makes her and us stronger.
Is Daily Kos going to acknowledge him as one of their own?
A queer, prone to violence and the left wants to blame Palin and the Tea Party.
Proxy Error 3 times and counting
* Hat tip to FReeper "meadsjn" for capturing his facebook page before it was scrubbed (LINK).
I’m sure CNN will be exploring the whole “gay rage” angle immediately.
Uh, huh
Riiiiight.
Sheriff of Pima blaming radio and tv hate speech pushes unstable to do acts of violence, shame on him for trying to blame political discussion, that’s not bad enough but the sheriff’s public remarks regarding immigration law in Arizona is an example of the very speech he blamed.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik (was there when I left AZ in1984), makes it clear he blames “talk radio and a cable channel” for the shooting. I guess Limbaugh and Beck are headed to Pima County Jail. I wonder if the 50 year old suspect will be a Tea Partier. Dupnik was a pro-union jerk an still is. I am furious at the progressives but sad for Gifford, Roll and the rest tragic all the way around.
I did say that this was someone else’s post. The poster said that his FB page was scrubbed after the shooting so I don’t know. You can read it here complete with replies:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653568/replies?c=14
here is a copy from his page:
“BoyBlue’s diary :: ::
Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.
Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don’t have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.
She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.
Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won’t lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn. “
Liberal is a mental disease.
Don’t blame the perp blame talk radio, etc. This Dupnik is a jerk who now has a forum to cast blame on those he disagrees with.
That Sheriff was a real nut case. Probably an Olbermann and Shultz fan. From what I have been able to find out it appears the shooter is a Lunatic. His video favorite on his web page is a weird burning of the American Flag. The Leftist media will try to blame Rush and Beck etc. but will be exposed in the end as the whacko leftist lunatics they are.
Agreed.
WARNING
The post you cited was on KOS.
But, it may not be the same guy.
Not surprising though to see many anarchist, socialist posters on the KOS so it would be easy to draw that conclusion.
I copied that from a link to the nutjobs youtube video.
Link was at Drudge
“Interested in men”
” Wants to be a woman”
“Interested in men”
” Wants to be a woman”
Not sure if BlueBoy is the shooter. BB claims to have been married and I have heard no mention of a spouse- male or female. (Is gay marriage legal in AZ?)
Also, does anyone know if the shooter has a suicide attempt in his past? This just doesn’t seem to line up with the 22 year old shooter. There has been absolutely no mention of him working on the congresswoman’s campaign. Yet, anyway.
It does seem like many of these young whack shooters have been rejected by the military. Or maybe they weren’t really rejected....
5-28-75 Centennial Secondary School, Michael Slobodian, 16 “...somebody asked him about his new short haircut and he replied, “I’ve joined the armed forces.”
12-6-89 Ecole Poytechnique, Marc Lepine, 25
Luc Riopel, the Laval landlord, said that when Lépine moved out, he had said that he was going off to join the army.
—1981 Marc Lepine applies to the Canadian Army, but is rejected as “unsuitable.”
4-20-99 Columbine
Eric Harris, 18, had contact with a marine recruiter
8-30-06 Orange HS, Hillsborough NC Alvaro Rafael Castillo, 19
The North Carolina National Guard said Thursday that Castillo entered the Guard in 2004 as a cook and completed Basic Combat Training in August 2005. Prior to his Advanced Individual Training ship date in May of 2006, he was determined to be medically disqualified for military service.
9-13-06 Dawson College, Montreal, Kimveer Gill, 25
Gill did basic training at the Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit School in Saint-Jean, Que., for a month in 1999 The spokesman said he did not know the circumstances of Mr. Gill’s premature departure.
—Friends said that, even in high school, Mr. Gill spoke of joining the Armed Forces
12-12-06 Springfield Township HS, PA Shane Halligan, 16
He had planned to attend a National Guard boot camp in the summer, between his junior and senior years(preparatory to joining the NG upon graduation).
4-16-07 Virginia Tech, Cho Seung Hui, 23
“My dad told me today that on MSNBC, between the time they identified Cho by name and the time they got the package, they said he was an ex-Marine, ex-Navy. Dad said they never mentioned it again...”
There was a photo seend on the net not long after the shooting of a guy who loked like a masked Cho in a US Marine cami uniform.
12-4-07 Omaha/Westroads Mall, Robert Hawkins, 21
Sources also tells Action 3 News that Hawkins recently tried to get into the Army but was not allowed to join.
12-9-07 YWAM/New Life Church Matthew Murray, 24
“Murray recently talked to an army recruiter about enlisting in the army reserves. The family did not know what happened with that.”
“Steve states Matthew told him he was trying to get into the army.”
2-14-08 Northern Illinois University, Steven Kazmierczak, 27
In September, 2001, Kazmierczak joined the army. Six months later he was issued an administrative discharge, before he completed basic training, though the exact reasons were not revealed.
9-23-08 Kauhajoki School of Hospitality Matti Juhani Saari, 22
He entered the Finnish Defence Forces as a conscript in July 2006... Saari did not complete his military service. The FDF have not divulged details of why Saari’s military service was terminated.
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