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Will There Be QE3, QE4, QE5...?(QE=money creation= =inflation)
Mises Institute ^ | December 31, 2010 | Philipp Bagus

Posted on 01/02/2011 9:24:54 PM PST by sickoflibs

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The Peter Schiff/Austrian Economics ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

If you realize both parties in Washington think that our money is theirs and you trust them to do the wrong thing, this list is for you.

If you think there is a Santa Claus who is going to get elected in Washington and cut your taxes, spend a few trillion and that will jump-start the economy, this list is not for you.

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The Austrian School’s Commandments plus :From : link

1) You cannot spend your way out of a recession
2) You cannot regulate the economy into oblivion and expect it to function
3) You cannot tax people and businesses to the point of near slavery and expect them to keep producing
4) You cannot create an abundance of money out of thin air without making all that paper worthless
5) The government cannot make up for rising unemployment by just hiring all the out of work people to be bureaucrats or send them unemployment checks forever
6) You cannot live beyond your means indefinitely
7) The economy must actually produce something others are willing to buy
8) Every government bureaucrat should keep the following motto in mind when attempting to influence the economy: “First, do no harm!”
9) Central bank-supported fractional reserve banking is an economically distorting, ethically questionable activity. In particular, no government should ever do anything to save any bank from the full consequences of a bank run, no matter what the short-term consequences.
10) Gold is God’s money.

Add mine:

1) Businesses don't hire workers just because of demand for products or services, they hire because it makes them money. Sorry to have to state the obvious.
2) Government spending without taxing is still redistribution
3) Taking one man's money and giving it to another is not a job.
4) Paul Krugman and Bernake have been wrong about everything, as well as the other best and brightest Keynesian's who have been fixing our economy for over a decade.
5) Republicans in the minority (esp out of the White House) act like Republicans, in the majority they act like Democrats .

1 posted on 01/02/2011 9:24:57 PM PST by sickoflibs
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The Peter Schiff/Austrian Economics ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)
2 posted on 01/02/2011 9:29:09 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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Albert Edwards, SocGen bear, Takes A Bite Out Of China (China Falls)

"So Edwards' answer to the question that obsesses investors at the moment – are we past the worst? – is a resounding "no". Or, as his final research piece of 2010 put it: "I've been doing this job long enough to recognise when the markets are entering a new phase of madness that leaves me scratching my head with bemusement."

3 posted on 01/02/2011 9:57:31 PM PST by blam
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"Money printing cannot make society richer; it does not produce more real goods."

The USA doesn't produce more real goods, and the money printing is the only scheme for continuing the Libertarian, anti-American paradigm. It props those who sent our manufacturing overseas while regulating against domestic manufacturing.


4 posted on 01/02/2011 10:02:10 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: sickoflibs
Excellent read.

Thanks.

5 posted on 01/02/2011 10:39:14 PM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: sickoflibs

I hope this bang-on article receives widespread readership.

BUMP!


6 posted on 01/02/2011 10:56:22 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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Stupid thread title. Housing prices and salaries aren’t going up, so “inflation” is a non-starter.

Creating money is counter-productive, by the way, if that money-creation slows the velocity of your currency via debt over-accumulation or a negative money-multiplier factor.

For the U.S. today, credit is the majority of the economy. In fact, there are only a mere $900 Billion in our entire $14 Trillion GDP in cash money.

The above factors mean that you can run the printing presses as fast as the Japanese have run them each year for the past 22 years and wind up with Japanese-style DEflation...falling home prices and falling payrolls.

Deflation is the opposite of inflation.

Deflation is a slower speed of money.

So ask yourself if salaries and home prices are going up?!


7 posted on 01/03/2011 12:41:58 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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The Libs are panicing about raising the debt limit. It must be the best thing not to raise it.


8 posted on 01/03/2011 2:33:47 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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please ADD me to your ping list..

Thanks


9 posted on 01/03/2011 3:19:29 AM PST by davidosborne (2012 will be the year of the INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE ! let's GOOOH !)
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Hey, I've been looking for some worthless scrap paper around here to light my winter fireplace with........now lessseeeee......is there some around here?

I know I had some tinder around here somewhere.......hmmmmmmm......OH! Here it is!


10 posted on 01/03/2011 3:30:37 AM PST by SkyPilot
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"Will There Be QE3, QE4, QE5...?"

don't think this progression can go past QE 9....

11 posted on 01/03/2011 5:37:17 AM PST by 1234 ("1984")
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RE :”The USA doesn't produce more real goods, and the money printing is the only scheme for continuing the Libertarian, anti-American paradigm. It props those who sent our manufacturing overseas while regulating against domestic manufacturing.

The popular theory is that devaluing the dollar boosts exports and discourages imports. This now the Democrat's economic theory and under Bush WAS the Republicans. My guess is you would really have to devalue the dollar alot to compete with China and other Asian countries with labor/regulation costs. And raising prices can kill the economy/recovery itself.

12 posted on 01/03/2011 7:50:14 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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The debt ceiling doesn’t matter...Until it’s too late.


13 posted on 01/03/2011 2:26:46 PM PST by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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"The Libs are panicing about raising the debt limit. It must be the best thing not to raise it."

Agreed! Though painful for many at first, that would be the best way to go. I'll believe it, when I see it, though.


14 posted on 01/03/2011 4:07:54 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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"The popular theory is that devaluing the dollar boosts exports and discourages imports. This now the Democrat's economic theory and under Bush WAS the Republicans. My guess is you would really have to devalue the dollar alot to compete with China and other Asian countries with labor/regulation costs. And raising prices can kill the economy/recovery itself."

That's true, but I'm looking forward to new leadership in business, politics and academia. Maybe the only way to go is with a clean house to begin with--the way of repudiating the debt.


15 posted on 01/03/2011 4:10:47 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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Get ready to rumblllllle!

16 posted on 01/03/2011 6:30:10 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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Will There Be QE3, QE4, QE5...?(QE=money creation= =inflation)

It may be more appropriately labeled as QE2.1, QE2.2, QE2.3....since the Fed and media will spin it as a continuation of the current QE2 rather than as a separate effort ala QE3, QE4, etc.

17 posted on 01/04/2011 10:55:27 AM PST by OB1kNOb (You are free to choose your actions, but never the resulting consequences.)
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Southhack makes an obvious point: where’s the inflation?


18 posted on 01/09/2011 8:40:46 AM PST by secretagent
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RE :”Southhack makes an obvious point: where’s the inflation?

Fill up your tank with gas, buy some groceries and compare those prices (compared to two years ago) with the big raise you got this year, assuming you still have a job.

No-one claimed it would re-inflate the housing bubble, in fact the opposite was predicted.

19 posted on 01/09/2011 8:55:50 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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The “opposite” was predicted?! Really?!

That’s like saying that global warming makes it colder.

Either salaries and housing prices go up (inflation), or else they go down (deflation).

$0.10 difference in gas or milk ain’t gonna touch losing a paycheck or being underwater on a mcmansion...


20 posted on 01/09/2011 9:01:39 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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