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To: drbuzzard
Ok, then you better get a clue as to who this ‘thief’ really is. It’s Granny. It’s every recipient who pulled out more than they put in. It’s every politician who spent money that wasn’t on the income part of the ledger.

Recipients like "Granny" didn't "pull out" money, the government "dished out" money in excess of what individuals paid in plus accrued interest. Don't put this on Granny - she was promised her money back by the politicians.

Yes, we can certainly blame politicians. We can also blame the ADD/ADHD scammers and their statist enablers. We can blame those that didn't pay in but still collect. We can blame a lot of people but DON'T blame the people who, against their own will, had the money stolen from themselves and their employers over the years with the promise that they would have retirement income. They did not cause this mess.

I've had the money stolen from my pay for 35 years and counting, and I WILL BE MADE WHOLE, regardless of what you or the other marxists want. If the government can't find the money, take it from the deadbeats in the welfare class. Take it from the folks that DIDN'T pay in to SS but collect benefits. Take it from Fort Knox. I don't give a fat rat's ass how they do it, but they had better pay me back what I unwillingly paid them for all these years.

585 posted on 01/03/2011 8:55:42 AM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: meyer
Put government promises in one hand, and defecate in the other...see which one fills up first.

I am in my late fifties and I know the money that was deducted from my paychecks is (mostly) gone forever.

For the American economy to survive, I must receive pennies on the dollar.

I've reached the "acceptance" stage, friend. You are still moving back and forth between denial and anger.

588 posted on 01/03/2011 9:00:47 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: meyer

>Recipients like “Granny” didn’t “pull out” money, the government “dished out” money in excess of what individuals paid in plus accrued interest. Don’t put this on Granny - she was promised her money back by the politicians.

Hmm, isn’t trafficking stolen goods a crime? Last time I checked it was. Granny was fully in favor of the program, and happily receiver her bonanza from the start of the Ponzi scheme. She’s about as culpable as the politicians she elected to keep the checks coming.

>Yes, we can certainly blame politicians. We can also blame the ADD/ADHD scammers and their statist enablers. We can blame those that didn’t pay in but still collect. We can blame a lot of people but DON’T blame the people who, against their own will, had the money stolen from themselves and their employers over the years with the promise that they would have retirement income. They did not cause this mess.

You’re pretty funny. The amount of Social Security fraud is a drop in the bucket. Citing that as a major drain is just fooling yourself as to the nature of the problem. This Ponzi scheme was going to go bust eventually. It was demographically inevitable. The fraud might have shifted the due date by a few months.

>I’ve had the money stolen from my pay for 35 years and counting, and I WILL BE MADE WHOLE, regardless of what you or the other marxists want. If the government can’t find the money, take it from the deadbeats in the welfare class. Take it from the folks that DIDN’T pay in to SS but collect benefits. Take it from Fort Knox. I don’t give a fat rat’s ass how they do it, but they had better pay me back what I unwillingly paid them for all these years.

So we’ll pay it off with magic fairy gold? We’ll just print worthless dollars? Where is the money going to come from? Do you think future taxpayers will stomach tax rates at 80%+ of GDP to keep you happy? Fat chance.


590 posted on 01/03/2011 9:04:30 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: meyer; wagglebee; trisham; BykrBayb; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW
Yes, we can certainly blame politicians. We can also blame the ADD/ADHD scammers and their statist enablers. We can blame those that didn't pay in but still collect. We can blame a lot of people but DON'T blame the people who, against their own will, had the money stolen from themselves and their employers over the years with the promise that they would have retirement income. They did not cause this mess.

Well said.

603 posted on 01/03/2011 9:21:39 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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