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To: drbuzzard
They GOP congress managed welfare reform in the 90s. It cut expenditures and welfare rolls.

Sounds like a good place to start then. I suggest you focus your lobbying effort there instead of trying to lay a guilt trip on those of us who paid into SS and expect some return.

318 posted on 01/02/2011 3:41:24 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"instead of trying to lay a guilt trip on those of us who paid into SS and expect some return"

I don't see Buzz laying a guilt trip on anyone. If you feel guilt you manifested it all on your own.

That these programs are unsustainable is not argued by any person who has looked at the numbers. They were known to be unsustainable by Reagan himself in the 1964 "The Speech" when he decried the fiscal mess the system was in then.

That said, it's only a matter of how these programs will be cut, not if.

321 posted on 01/02/2011 3:46:37 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: abb

>Sounds like a good place to start then. I suggest you focus your lobbying effort there instead of trying to lay a guilt trip on those of us who paid into SS and expect some return.

At one point you claimed to understand numbers and be capable of running a spreadsheet. Then you come back with idiocy like the above. Screwing around with piddling little programs like Welfare when Social Security is about to break the bank is an inane waste of time.

Welfare is comparably small money and is not growing at a breakneck pace. It’s not even on the radar screens as to issues worth worrying about. The reforms from the 90s were pretty solid (though the Dems have been trying to unravel them).


324 posted on 01/02/2011 3:54:55 PM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: abb

I’m with you on this debate as the “Rich” already pay 70%+ of the taxes which keep the rusty wheels of this country turning. We’re 77 and been drawing SS since 2000 and Wife and I sacrificed and invested in a business and some rental properties over our productive years and are damn proud to be in that top tier and we will gladly give up our SS if we can stop paying taxes including FICA. And don’t forget the “rich” are stuck with a ever expanding cap on FICA...


340 posted on 01/02/2011 4:10:58 PM PST by tubebender (The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in Eureka...)
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