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1 posted on 12/29/2010 9:26:04 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Same reason staff don’t sing “Happy Birthday” for patrons at Applebees and the like.

They would go to Happy Birthday jail.


2 posted on 12/29/2010 9:28:49 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: LibWhacker

Those people are delusional. If you’re not performing a song for a paid audience or to make a sound recording for sale it shouldn’t matter.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 9:32:14 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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Love those unions.


4 posted on 12/29/2010 9:34:31 AM PST by dr_who
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I wonder what they get for the Horst Wessel Lied?


7 posted on 12/29/2010 9:36:32 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: LibWhacker
The answer, at least in the US, is to only sing songs published before 1923. That includes more Christmas songs than you could possibly ever want. In Germany the copyright laws are different, a song goes into the public domain 70 years after the death of the composer. So they also have a huge number of public domain songs available.

Yes it is quite annoying, but the solution, until laws change, is simple: Use public domain music and tell the copyright holders to spend their time somewhere else.

9 posted on 12/29/2010 9:41:18 AM PST by Voltage
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I invent a new song just about every other day for my 15 month old.

Today it was:

The Cookie Bear is here today!
The Cookie Bear is here to play!
The Cookie Bear!
The Cookie Bear!
The Cookie Bear!

That's it, i stopped to have cookies.
I'll finish it tomorrow (the song and the box of cookies).

14 posted on 12/29/2010 9:58:36 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Stupid Obama still lacks the experience needed to be President.)
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How long before they demand every individual list and pay royalties on every copyrighted song they sing in the shower?

At some point the music industry is going to infuriate the public so much with this nonsense that copyright protection will be rolled back or repealed.

Personally, I think all non-commercial use of songs should be considered fair use. I’m not talking about mass file sharing of digital music, but singing a copyrighted song at a party or school event should be free.


16 posted on 12/29/2010 10:02:56 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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Paritaetischer Wohlfahrtsverband Hamburg

What does this mean? The possibilities are sort of frightening.
29 posted on 12/29/2010 10:27:49 AM PST by righttackle44
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I’m gonna take the unpopular position on this. Blanket licenses for schools are not onerous — I’d estimate for a preschool it would be less than $100 a year. Elementary schools already pay license fees.

The schools get value from that music. Kids — and more importantly, the parents who pay the fees — like sing-alongs that include recognizable songs instead of being limited to public-domain ones. If one school has a better musical selection than another, that’s going to provide a competitive advantage.

I’m not familiar with GEMA, but in the US, ASCAP passes on 89% of that money to copyright holders, i.e. songwriters. If I wrote a song that was used by thousands of preschools, especially the for-profit ones, as part of the service they provide, I’d certainly think it reasonable that I make a few bucks from it, and that the folks who perform it kick in a few pennies.


30 posted on 12/29/2010 10:29:39 AM PST by ReignOfError
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Wow, thanks for your comments. Didn’t know there was any justification for this stuff, but this thread has convinced me otherwise. Still... Has the music industry gone after small operators of day care centers, say? Or after 16-year-old babysitters? Seems like a slippery slope.


40 posted on 12/29/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Pop got the weasels.


43 posted on 12/29/2010 6:02:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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