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1 posted on 12/27/2010 12:41:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder if passing nullification act(s) would suffice....


176 posted on 12/28/2010 8:27:29 AM PST by cranked
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To: SeekAndFind

We learned from the immigration debate that states aren’t responsible for enforcing federal laws.

lol.


183 posted on 12/28/2010 10:13:13 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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All we are saying, is give War a chance.


187 posted on 12/28/2010 11:13:26 AM PST by PGR88
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(What can a state do if it loses in court?)

SECEDE!

189 posted on 12/28/2010 11:38:59 AM PST by Aroostook25
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END THE EPA...EDU...INTERIOR....ENERGY..ETCETC.

HUCK HAS A PETITION DRIVE TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.

It is time to start a push to end agencies that rule by fiat, without the approval of the people ( House)


195 posted on 12/28/2010 7:36:54 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To hell with the Court battle...

Tell the Marxist bastards at the EPA to come to Texas and MAKE US obey!

Then when the a-holes arrive...

You Texans open up on them with EVERYTHING you got!

ANNIHILATE them!!!


199 posted on 12/29/2010 1:42:44 AM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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200 posted on 12/29/2010 2:20:45 AM PST by Seadog Bytes ("Smart Growth"... isn't.)
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(What can a state do if it loses in court?)

... make damn sure epa loses its life


202 posted on 12/29/2010 4:01:46 AM PST by SF_Redux (the scarier part about all these Marxists is, that a few of them can breed .. with the opposite sex)
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To: SeekAndFind

STATES have rights, they can oped out and refuse to heel to the feds. Soveriegn Rights do work.


207 posted on 12/29/2010 1:17:23 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: SeekAndFind; ex-Texan

Carbon-emission = liberal-commies speaking.


209 posted on 12/29/2010 3:46:25 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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All agents of the federal gubmint found in any given state should be “detained” by local law enforcement.


213 posted on 12/30/2010 5:27:27 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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it demonstrates well the Obama strategy in 2011 to win through regulation what it could not win through legislation.

True enough. Obama doesn't need legislation to continue waging war against America. There are more than enough federal agencies, rules, regulations, regulators, and policies, already in place, to accommodate his every wish to disrupt and destroy.

For decades folks moaned, 'well this or that federal policy-rule-regulation-mandate almost seems reasonable. But what if it gets in the wrong hands?' Well, all these hundreds of thousands federal mandates, are now in the wrong hands. So, we are about to realize the feared "what if" scenario.

215 posted on 12/30/2010 9:51:02 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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218 posted on 01/01/2011 11:07:44 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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The action will give the EPA permitting authority over refineries, power plants and cement facilities in Texas, the agency said, but will not affect small pollution source facilities, such as restaurants and farms.

That is illegal. The CAA act does not allow them to only regulate large sources.

219 posted on 01/02/2011 3:14:57 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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What can a state do if it loses in court?

The federal Environmental Protection Agency on Thursday effectively declared Texas unfit to regulate its own greenhouse gas emissions and took over carbon dioxide permitting of any new or expanding industrial facilities starting Jan. 2.

What can you do? Pronounce them unfit right back and continue to operate the state permitting process! The EPA is on thin political ground here and the more Washington overreaches, the more people will come to believe they've crossed the line, so (a) don't worry too much about it, and (b) consider trying to goad them into doing something that will REALLY piss people off.

What would probably happen in practice is that the EPA would sue the state and the feds would withhold "federal grant money". So then Texas instructs state employers to remit their federal tax withholding payments to them instead of directly to the feds, deducts the amount of "federal money" improperly being withheld, and sends the rest on to Washington.

But the original question was what to do if you lose in court. Which brings us to the bizarre paradox of state vs. federal jurisprudence. Having a federal court decide cases pitting the feds against states or groups of states is a ludicrous idea, similar to having federal courts rule on Constitutionality of legislation. Have you ever been interviewed for jury duty? They'll exclude you if you know some of the parties, even one of the lawyers or the judge. So why states view as binding a ruling where they lose to the feds in a federal court is beyond me, but certainly not a state of affairs that can persist indefinitely.

But what's the alternative? you may ask. As bad as the feds are, we certainly don't want to subject ourselves to the whim of some world court, staffed by tyrants and imbeciles, so what's to be done? Well, how about issues like this being heard before a panel of state jurists from states not involved in the immediate dispute. They'd be impartial on the merits of a given case, except for a bias to preserve state power, which is exactly what you want. The bias would be in favor of the state unless they were doing something completely egregious, which is perfect.

221 posted on 01/02/2011 3:25:50 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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What was the outcome? I assume they’re still running.


233 posted on 01/07/2011 2:43:29 PM PST by lgjhn23
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