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To: Recovering_Democrat
There's a HUGH difference from a Cloture Vote and a senate vote on passage of a Treaty. The commieRATS 'only' need 60 votes for cloture but they need 67 Votes to pass the Treaty, and I don't see 67 votes there.

In any case this treaty should NOT be voted on now. I downloaded all of its parts and this thing needs to be reviewed carefully. It's in Five Parts and has a total of 356 pages(1) and is NOT something that a Lame Duck senate, with time running out, should even be looking at.

The Treaty itself is only 17 pages, but the Protocols are 165 pages.
And after that there's Three Parts of 'annexes' for 174 pages.

26 posted on 12/20/2010 5:59:43 AM PST by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: Condor51

There are easily 67 votes:

58 Democrats plus the following RINOs:

Lugar
Snowe
Collins
Brown
Kirk
Corkum
Voinovich
Murkowski
McCain
Kyl
Graham
Lamar Alexander

The Dems only need 9 of these 12 clowns to pass this sell-out to madman Putin.


29 posted on 12/20/2010 6:32:29 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Condor51

Reid will not bring up a vote if he doesn’t have the 67 votes.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 7:09:25 AM PST by AU72
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To: Condor51
but they need 67 Votes to pass the Treaty, and I don't see 67 votes there.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks donated to FR that a treaty can be ratified legally with as few as 34 votes, being 2/3 of a quorum.

Or you can read post 34 and cure your appalling ignorance of the Constitution. It's two thirds of SENATORS PRESENT, not two thirds of the Senate. Fixing that mistake is one of the most important Constitutional amendments we could ever ratify and we should clarify the supremacy clause while we're at it.

As it turns out, treaties may have been ratified with fewer Senators than 2/3 of a quorum, as there are often fewer in the room while the Senate is still in session and I have records proving at least the possibility.

35 posted on 12/20/2010 7:46:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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