You make some interesting points in your various posts on this topic. I wrote a post yesterday about my struggle trying to be fair and decent as a woman who strongly believe in the equality of citizens.
I don’t know what is the moral, just or best way to deal with gay and lesbians in our law, or our culture. I do know I have a strong belief- which is probably unfair and unjust- that the repeal of this law is a dreadful mistake that is going to wreak havoc over time with our national defense.
Tell me this- as the professional that you are- what would be going through your mind in boot camp when everyone is showering together, or when you’re sitting on the pot across from each other? How’s that going to affect morale, sailor?
I admire your detached and “professional” manner- sadly, I cannot come close to emulating it. I’m furious and feel we have been harmed and betrayed by our government in ways that will show, slowly, but irrevocably in our military, our schools and our entire culture.
Is it right to think and feel this way? I don’t know. I don’t hate these people- and I sympathize with their feeling like second class citizens. But damn it, is their need to be accepted more important than the nations need to be safe?
I still have very mixed feeling about men and women going through boot camp together- so I’m hardly a liberated gal. But considering this is ALL about SEX, I’ve tried to imagine what I’d feel like if I were a recruit and expected to shower with men. Because that’s how it’s going to be- gay men showering with straight, lesbians showering with straight women.
When straight people are disciplined for fraternizing with the opposite sex in the military they take their punishment like adults- they knew better and did it anyway- pay the piper. NOW we’ll have “but they’re only picking on me cause they know I’m gay and it’s discrimination”....
Oh hell yeah- tomorrow may be the same...come back and talk to us in a year.
Are you sure you want to go there? Would bestiality not render itself to second class status of the person involved? As a normal adult, why would the "plight" of the buggerer really command that much emotion form you? Come on. We are talking about men acting like barnyard animals.
I admire your detached and “professional” manner-
***He’s a practiced troll who knows where the line is drawn, that’s how he keeps detached. Obviously, if he supported DADT and thought homosexuality was an abomination, he would say it. But he doesn’t think that way, so he stops just shy of supporting the repeal of DADT — he knows that if he stepped over that line, he’d get the zot. Keep asking him questions if you honestly think you’ve run into someone “professional”, but I hold no hope that he’ll act in any way but a troll.
Or ten...or twenty. Very well said.
And there exists a solution. You make a case that this law is a dreadful mistake. You sell this case to the American people. You support politicians who will reverse this law and you do what you can to see them elected into office! That's really all there is to it! Sound difficult? It shouldn't. This is exactly what liberals did. They made a case for gays in the military, sold this case to the American people and got the politicians elected to make it happen. Liberals get stuff done and all we can do is bellyache?
Sometimes democracy sucks but if I choose to serve, I don't get to choose the military I want. I serve in the military America wants and at the end of the day, the military America wants is the one they're going to get.