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I've said many times, and will continue to say that homosexuals aren't bad because they're homosexual. They're homosexual because they're BAD.

Everybody is fallen, and even those with the very presence of God with them can "slip", but homosexuals have taken their brand of sin to a high level of perfection. They not only want what they want in order to please themselves, but they've politicized it and packaged it into something that on the surface might even seem acceptable, if not for the scene you describe on the beach, and other things. They're certainly no minority as we understand the definition of minority, and they're not legally owed any special allowances by our Constitution.

The truth of the matter is that they're miserable people. Since homosexuality is simply another symptom of their overall problem, they suffer the results of a myriad of other problems. Domestic violence in homosexual households is high, as is the rate of child abuse among them. Ditto for substance abuse and just about every other kind of abuse you can name. Because of my job I work in close proximity to the law enforcement community in my state and domestic violence problems in homosexual and lesbian households are almost expected. I've been told that it's the exception to find a homosexual couple that's not just nasty and aggressive in some way, shape, or form. My wife is a BSN/RN and hears regularly from EMTs and ER folks that she knows who receive homosexuals to remove "toys" from places where they were shoved and then got stuck. Moreover this, she tells me they act as if they did nothing wrong. Or she tells me of instances where one simply beat the other badly enough for a hospitalization.

As I said, they package this darkness in a manner which makes them seem like nice and normal people. But when you get down to it, they're just messed up people who are not only nasty, but aggressive about it. Without The Lord, we all have the potential to be what they are.

It's no wonder that God in the Tanakh demanded that Israel slaughter entire nations for things like what we're talking about...and while that wasn't the entire reason, many of those nations DID have some disgusting sexual practices...some even rooted in their form of religion. But the bottom line then, as it is now, is that it's still disgusting, it still spreads disease, and it's still just a symptom of a larger and worse problem.

But hey...what do I know. According to the American Psychiatric Association, NAMBLA, NPR, the DNC, the NEA, and other experts it's just an alternative lifestyle and we should simply accept it... even coexist with it.

I'm waiting for hell to freeze over first!