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Federal Reserve Is a 'Cartel': Ron Paul
CNBC ^ | 12/14/2010 | Michelle Lodge

Posted on 12/16/2010 1:30:14 PM PST by speciallybland

Rep. Ron Paul, (R-Texas), who will head a subcommittee overseeing the Federal Reserve in the new Congress, called the central bank a “cartel” and said it had “monopoly control” over the US dollar. “I think we should start ending the Fed by allowing competition. I don’t like the idea that they have monopoly control. It’s a cartel: They get to print the money,” said Paul, who wrote a book called End the Fed.

Paul said that he wanted to “legalize competition,” so that Americans can use gold and silver as legal tender.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: federalreserve; paul; ronpaul
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To: DTogo

yee of little understanding....


21 posted on 12/16/2010 2:02:53 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Brookhaven
If some enterprising hacker gets into a bank account and modifies his account so the database says he has $1 million dollars in it, then “spends” it by making thousands of electronic purchases, how will the money every be removed from the money supply?

Hacker? I thought that was the job of the Chairman of the Fed, except the $1 million would be $1 trillion.

22 posted on 12/16/2010 2:04:50 PM PST by KarlInOhio (All monopolies are detestable, but the worst of all is the monopoly of education. -Frederic Bastiat)
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To: speciallybland

What’s he going to tell us next: water is wet, bears do their business in the woods?


23 posted on 12/16/2010 2:06:55 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: Brookhaven
How do you spot counterfiet “electronic” money?

That problem is similar to the problems that existed before the US government monopolized money printing. Banks use to print their own bank notes and it was up to each merchant to decide if he would accept this note or that. The problem was solved by the banks themselves. They began printing and issuing lists of banknotes and discount values based on the bank's confidence that it could redeem the notes for gold. If a bank wanted it's notes to be accepted it had to establish a good track record in the eyes of the other banks. There is no reason to think it will be any different with electronic money.

See The History of Money and Banking in the United States

24 posted on 12/16/2010 2:07:33 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: speciallybland
The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve.

I am reading this now. The author makes a good case that it is indeed a cartel and was intended as such from its initial conception. Btw, I'm sure Ron Paul is familiar with this book.

25 posted on 12/16/2010 2:09:29 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: SeeSharp

It’s the same thing. Either repeal legal tender laws and watch a zillion banks open with gold/silver backed paper notes. Or, designate gold/silver as legal tender, and watch a zillion banks provide paper notes backed by said PMs.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 2:10:19 PM PST by semantic
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To: speciallybland

Ron Paul would rather go back to the Gold standard where China as the largest gold producer will be determining our money supply growth.


27 posted on 12/16/2010 2:12:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Racehorse

I agree, strip him of his chairmanship. He’s more of a conspiracy hack than a true conservative.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 2:13:42 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Brookhaven

Just wait until they try to outlaw all money and put a chip in your arm, which they can turn off or erase if you don’t cooperate so you can no longer eat. Heard this is in the plans for 2012.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 2:15:27 PM PST by kaizen
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To: speciallybland

The Federal Reserve IS 100% owned by big, private New York banks. It IS a cartel. He is RIGHT. But, most Americans are NOT aware that private currency IS legal in America - you just can’t counterfeit the US currency.


30 posted on 12/16/2010 2:16:40 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Red Badger
The X1/9 was a true road carver... like you said, 'when it ran.'

Pretty car, I'll admit.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 2:23:04 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: semantic
It’s the same thing. Either repeal legal tender laws and watch a zillion banks open with gold/silver backed paper notes. Or, designate gold/silver as legal tender, and watch a zillion banks provide paper notes backed by said PMs.

There is a difference. With legal tender laws the government can and will regulate the specie content values of the coins (coin clipping), and will regulate the exchange rate between gold and silver (price fixing). Without legal tender any attempt at funny business by the government will result in a switch to private or foreign coins.

32 posted on 12/16/2010 2:25:56 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Racehorse

I’ll have to look at why he voted that way. At any rate, we are talking about the Federal Reserve. If our economy goes up in smoke and this New World Order crap comes in.. DADT will not really matter. Priorities... Certainly DADT is big but the audit of the Federal Reserve is bigger. No way would I want anyone else over this.

The Republican party that would strip him of his chairmanship because of this vote does not exist. Hell look at their leaders always crying on TV. What a complete embarrassment.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 2:26:38 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: 2harddrive
that private currency IS legal in America

Private banks notes are legal but they are heavily taxed. That's why no one issues them anymore. Specie based currency is not legal and the Secret Service will swoop in and shut you down if you try minting anything other than numismatic (novelty) coins containing gold or silver.

34 posted on 12/16/2010 2:29:27 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

There is no reason to think it will be any different with electronic money.


It would be very different with electronic money.

A better analogy would be a computer virus. A hacker writes a computer virus and deposits it on one computer, infecting it. The virus seeks out 10 other computers connected to the original computer and replicates itself onto them. Those 10 copies replicate themselves onto 10 other computers. And so on, and so on, until millions of computers are infected with the virus. It only stops when someone identifies the virus, and creates a program to clean the virus off computers. Of course, that only happens if millions of computer owners run the program, and if the virus has some unique identifer that indicates it is the virus (usually a unique series of number embeded in the code).

Think of that same scenario, only with people spending money. Originally created as a false database entry, the money is spent and respent until millions of accounts contain the false dollars. The problem is that, unlike computer code that is a static series of 1’s and 0’s (so you can detect a pattern in the file that indicates this is the virus file) there is no way to identify the false dollars are false. They are just entries in a database. The only way to fix the problem is undo millions of transactions.


35 posted on 12/16/2010 2:33:01 PM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: dennisw
"2- The President appoints the head of the Federal Reserve in DC"

Actually, the president appoints all of the member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. They serve a 14 year term and their terms are staggered so any one president is only appointing 3 or 4 per term.

"3- The NY Fed is extremely important and almost equal to the Central Fed in DC. The people who run the NY Fed are all hand picked by the NY Fed’s member banks. No public input here! Just us NY banksters"

Not true. 1/3 of the directors are picked by the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. 1/3 is picked by the member banks from the banking industry to represent them. And 1/3 are picked by the member banks from the business community.

Also each member bank gets one vote. Regardless of how big they are, or how much stock in the Federal Reserve Bank they have. That means the Smallest bank in NY has equal footing with Bank of America.

36 posted on 12/16/2010 2:37:06 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

NY Fed Board of Directors


Terms expire December 31 of the year indicated.

Class A - elected by member banks to represent member banks
Richard L. Carrión (bio) 2010
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman
Banco Popular de Puerto Rico

Charles V. Wait (bio) 2011
President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board
The Adirondack Trust Company

Jamie Dimon (bio) 2012
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
JPMorgan Chase

Class B - elected by member banks to represent the public

Jeffrey R. Immelt (bio) 2011
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
General Electric Company

Jeffrey B. Kindler (bio) 2012
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Pfizer

James S. Tisch (bio) 2010
President and Chief Executive Officer
Loews Corporation

Class C - appointed by Board of Governors to represent the public

Denis M. Hughes (bio) Chair, 2011
President
New York State AFL-CIO

Lee C. Bollinger (bio) Deputy Chair, 2012
President
Columbia University

Kathryn S. Wylde (bio) 2010
President and Chief Executive Officer
Partnership for New York City

37 posted on 12/16/2010 2:42:19 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Brookhaven
It would be very different with electronic money

Not so long as it's is redeemable in gold. In order for you to spend your electronic money merchants have to know they can deposit the "money" you give them in their own banks. That means in order to keep you as a customer your bank has to maintain its reputation among other banks. They will not create and issue electronic money much greater than the gold in their vaults because if they do so their currency will be rejected by other banks. - or worse, they will have a run on their deposits

38 posted on 12/16/2010 2:43:10 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: speciallybland
How the Federal Reserve is Audited

How the Federal Reserve Board members are selected

39 posted on 12/16/2010 2:46:35 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Pray for Dr. Paul’s safety.”

I agree - very ballsy of him, but very necessary.

I forget the specifics, but have read of the fates those who opposed the central banking cartels - and I recall them as “not pretty.”

Perhaps others can shed light on such matters of history.


40 posted on 12/16/2010 3:00:15 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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