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To: antiRepublicrat

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http://creation.com/darwinian-thought-police-strike-again

The Discovery Institute in anticipation and response posted a web article by John West on June 1, 2007, entitled ‘The Truth about Research Grants, Gonzalez and ISU’ as follows:

1.As we have reported previously, outside research funding is not a published criterion for earning tenure in Dr. Gonzalez’s department. Indeed, it isn’t even mentioned in the departmental standards for tenure and promotion.

So if this factor was considered key in his tenure denial, Gonzalez’s department was applying a criterion outside of its own stated standards. (The primary standard according to the departmental policy on tenure and promotion is peer-reviewed publications, and 15 articles are ‘ordinarily’ supposed to ‘demonstrate excellence sufficient to lead to a national or international reputation.’ Dr. Gonzalez has 68 peer-reviewed publications, or 350% more than the departmental standard. Twenty-one of these articles were published since 2002, the year after Dr. Gonzalez arrived at ISU.)

2.Contrary to some reports, Dr. Gonzalez did receive outside grant funding during his time at ISU:

From 2001–2004, Dr. Gonzalez was a Co-Investigator on a NASA Astrobiology Institute grant for ‘Habitable Planets and the Evolution of Biological Complexity’ (his part of the grant for this time period was $64,000).

From 2000–2003, Dr. Gonzalez received a $58,000 grant from the Templeton Foundation. This grant was awarded as part of a competitive, peer-reviewed grant process, and his winning grant proposal had been peer-reviewed by a number of distinguished astronomers and scientists.

Earlier in 2007, Dr. Gonzalez was awarded a 5-year research grant for his work in observational astronomy from Discovery Institute (worth $50,000).

3.Using selective figures provided by ISU, the Register implies that one was expected to bring in an average of $1.3 million in grant funding to get tenure in Dr. Gonzalez’s department. Again, there is nothing in the departmental standards about this, and it is hard to know how accurate or comparable this figure is without seeing the specific data for all of the astronomers in the department, and without seeing comparable data from other departments at ISU. Unfortunately, ISU has thus far stonewalled efforts to get grant and publications data for those considered for tenure during the past several years.

On May 16 Discovery Institute filed a public documents request for the grant and publication data of those considered for tenure in Dr. Gonzalez’s department since 1997 and for faculty in other departments considered for tenure since 2002. Thus far the university has provided no data in response to these requests, nor as of today has it responded to repeated requests about when the materials will be provided. [All emphases are in the original—Ed.]

It is worth pointing out again that 91% of ISU faculty considered for tenure this year received it. Did they all receive more than a million dollars in grants [in] order to get tenure? Did they all exceed by 350% their departmental standards for publications? We are trying to find out, but ISU apparently doesn’t want people to know the answers to these questions.


103 posted on 12/15/2010 1:53:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
15 articles are ‘ordinarily’ supposed to ‘demonstrate excellence sufficient to lead to a national or international reputation.’ Dr. Gonzalez has 68 peer-reviewed publications, or 350% more than the departmental standard.

So this is where the 350% comes from. They take his ENTIRE history of academic output, which was at its highest before ISU, and then compare it to the standard required during a candidate's time while AT ISU. Dishonest.

Note they cite 21 publications while at ISU, while I have 20 if I dishonestly include 2007 to his benefit. That's far closer than your claim of 33 for his time there, so you and DI better discuss your numbers. And both of you are giving co-authorship the same weight as first-authorship, which is a big deal for the tenure review. Being a co-author can be as simple as a colleague asked you to look over his work, and for that you get your name on it. That's how you get papers with 700+ co-authors.

It is worth pointing out again that 91% of ISU faculty considered for tenure this year received it.

Yet in his department, the one that matters, they only have a 66% tenure rate over the last ten years. Dishonest. I can't believe you threw this out again after I already caught you on it.

Earlier in 2007, Dr. Gonzalez was awarded a 5-year research grant for his work in observational astronomy from Discovery Institute (worth $50,000).

I'll leave aside the fact that this was the Discovery Institute itself, possbily trying to pump up the numbers, and note that they cite a grant from AFTER his probationary period considered for tenure. Dishonest.

That's the DI for you, always dishonest, always distorting the facts. I have a hard time believing anything from this bunch of proven hucksters.

Evaluation of research ability is based primarily upon published papers in refereed journals...

IDers/creationists using "..." always scares me since their primary debate tactic is the misplacement and ommission of key information (see above).

There's no doubt he's a capable scientist. From all I've read I'd love to take one of his classes (aside from the religious card whiner aspect). The problem is that he let his work at ISU slide at a time when he should have been keeping it up. No matter how good you are, if you don't do the work, you don't get the job.

105 posted on 12/15/2010 3:31:42 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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