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To: palmer

I think the progressive movement should try something new—how about good old fashioned honesty?

Why don’t they simply present socialism for what it is, out in the open, and build their support from there?

Instead of making up schemes like “global warming” and then having to rename it first “climate change” and then “global cooling caused by global warming.”

Why are socialists so afraid of their own ideology?


38 posted on 12/10/2010 4:20:45 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I agree completely. But whenever honesty and complete openness is suggested to the warming zealots, they scream that science is being attacked and double down on their claims. Climategate if anything showed their circle the wagons approach to politics. But they are losing the political battle big time.


43 posted on 12/10/2010 4:28:45 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Liberals cannot tell people exactly what they want to do. If they did, the reaction would be nearly unanimous: “What? You expect me to support that?”

We cannot give them sodium pentathol, but we can be patient and listen. As anyone knows who has ever considered the ethics and mechanics of deception, telling lies over time is nearly impossible because you cannot keep track of your lies. Liberals depend on people not remembering (or caring) what they have said or promised in the past.

In other words...Liberals have already implemented “The Memory Hole”, but...that DAMNED Internet keeps getting in the way!


50 posted on 12/10/2010 4:34:44 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: reasonisfaith
Why are socialists so afraid of their own ideology?

Because at its core leftism is motivated by envy. They can't say out loud what they are really up to without being shamed. Envy is a master of disguise, and socialism is just one of them, a socially acceptable moral wrapper. It's easy to think of others. Envy is dangerous because it can explode into hostility such as murder, destruction, and war. Envy needs to be redirected either into healthy competition or humility. This is done by calling out envy in public causing the envier the pain of shame. The envier will aways deny it, but an angry reaction is evidence of a direct hit.

63 posted on 12/10/2010 7:29:17 AM PST by Reeses
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