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Victor Davis Hanson: The Destiny of Cities
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/09/2010 11:58:41 AM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 12/09/2010 11:58:45 AM PST by neverdem
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What kept Constantinople safe for 1,000 years after civilization fell in the West were not just the natural defenses of the long channel of the Hellespont and narrows at the Bosporus but also the city’s great walled network—the largest investment in labor and capital in the ancient world. It wasn’t breached until the Ottomans unleashed their huge, European-made artillery upon it.

And about 1/3 of their forces were Christians. Fools then and fools now...

2 posted on 12/09/2010 12:15:23 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem

Bump for later.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 12:21:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: neverdem

I’m gonna buy some mine resistant troop carriers and offer tours of Detroit. I’ll supply the local “youths” with 9mm handguns and all the ammo they can shoot (I choose 9mm so no one gets hurt)and I’ll staff the troop carriers with Special Forces types that will impress the hell out of the Japanese photo tourists. I love Obama.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 12:22:57 PM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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Yet by the 1990s, . . . helped New York recover and prosper in a way that, say, dysfunctional Detroit probably will not.

A few weeks ago I called the C-Span morning show, Washington Journal. They were interviewing a new congressman from Detroit. He was spouting the usual Leftist nonsense on how to restore Detroit.

I told this clown that if anyone wished to view the endpoint of democrat party and labor union government, they should take a holiday in Detroit. For some reason, my phone line went dead.

Want to see where rats and labor unions will deliver the United States? Visit Detroit, where civilization is in reverse gear.

5 posted on 12/09/2010 12:27:02 PM PST by Jacquerie (Government is not a machine, but a living thing. Woodrow Wilson)
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To: neverdem
The Destiny of Cities
If you're talking about "chocolate" cities here in America, I can tell you they're all doomed.
That is, what's left of them.

6 posted on 12/09/2010 12:27:34 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: neverdem

This gentleman is usually worth reading.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 12:29:29 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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f you're talking about "chocolate" cities here in America, I can tell you they're all doomed.

Sadly, that drives their inhabitants elsewhere to infect and infest other cities.

8 posted on 12/09/2010 12:31:39 PM PST by RobinOfKingston
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To: 2banana

And to think a Hungarian (I am half) was a major part of the attack, I cry.


9 posted on 12/09/2010 12:41:33 PM PST by Shark24
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To: neverdem
The key to survival of cities is individual relationships with the rural population, both settled and nomadic.

That system is laid out in Leviticus, with the key in Exodus 23:11. It was an amazing system of true civil defense, never attempted, or even fully articulated, until now.

10 posted on 12/09/2010 12:43:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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"Hey, lay off Detroit. Them people is livin' in 'Mad Max' times."

--Moe Sizlak

11 posted on 12/09/2010 1:41:35 PM PST by Oratam
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To: Jacquerie
"Hey, lay off Detroit. Them people is livin' in 'Mad Max' times."

--Moe Sizlak

12 posted on 12/09/2010 1:41:38 PM PST by Oratam
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To: oh8eleven

Black American society has chosen suicide. No help at all for those cities.


13 posted on 12/09/2010 1:43:25 PM PST by pabianice
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14 posted on 12/09/2010 2:50:00 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: neverdem

“When the oil runs out, or the world evolves beyond an oil-based economy, many of the Gulf capitals will probably resemble not Las Vegas but Bodie, California—a former desert boomtown that dried up when its mines closed and the capital fled.”

I hope I live long enough to see the M.E. thrown back 150 years through time in the span of a single generation. That will stop most of the terrorism and the cult of Islam as well.

Excellent article.


15 posted on 12/09/2010 2:51:49 PM PST by mad puppy (Steve McIntyre, we owe you frothy cold one. Thanks.)
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Thanks neverdem.
Why, following centuries of periodic depopulation and neglect, are Rome and Athens once again capitals, while Leptis Magna and Ephesus -- once-thriving imperial powerhouses on the coasts of Libya and Turkey, respectively -- are long deserted? ...Or consider the puzzle of Istanbul. Where the Ottoman city now stands, there was once Roman Constantinople -- itself built atop Greek Byzantium... One common answer is that location is all.
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16 posted on 12/09/2010 4:52:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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I hope I live long enough to see the M.E. thrown back 150 years through time in the span of a single generation. That will stop most of the terrorism and the cult of Islam as well.

I see that you're one optimistic, as well as mad puppy. I think that when the oil runs out, they'll be pushed much farther than 150 years back. 

17 posted on 12/09/2010 8:47:07 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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B4L8r


18 posted on 12/09/2010 10:29:32 PM PST by AFreeBird
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Nice. VDH bump.


19 posted on 12/10/2010 2:44:39 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: neverdem

The problem with cities is that they become unmanageable due to the numbers they attract. Yes, it’s that simple. When bees get too numerous they start a new colony rather than sticking with the old and letting things get ugly.
People have parameters for population, too.


20 posted on 12/10/2010 5:37:22 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Grammar police off-duty. But I saw what you did.)
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