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Will Europe hand Assange over to America?
12/08/2010 | WesternCulture

Posted on 12/08/2010 9:29:47 AM PST by WesternCulture

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1 posted on 12/08/2010 9:29:54 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

What are the charges in the US against Assange again?


2 posted on 12/08/2010 9:31:18 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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My Guess:

While in a cell with a couple Russian mafia types,Assange commits ‘assisted’ suicide in prison.


3 posted on 12/08/2010 9:34:50 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: WesternCulture

What would our wussy-asses do to him? Probably apologise and pay him a big settlement.


4 posted on 12/08/2010 9:35:43 AM PST by my small voice
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What can the US do? Demand that Assange be handed over to the FBI with no charges filed, but we'll detain him indefinitely until a bunch of government lawyers over here can investigate the matter and hope that they can come up with some charges that stick?

I think we've seen how that works out already.

From the Washington Post, via Dallas Morning News:

"... The U.S. attorney's office in Alexandria, Va., and the FBI are conducting what Justice Department officials have described as an aggressive criminal investigation that could lead to charges under the Espionage Act of 1917. However, prosecutions under the Espionage Act are highly complex, and sources familiar with the investigation have said no criminal charges are imminent.

Meanwhile, another official familiar with the inquiry says the Justice Department has examined whether Assange could be charged with trafficking in stolen government property. But that approach may be difficult, too.

"This is less about stealing than it is about copying," said John Palfrey, a Harvard Law School professor."

5 posted on 12/08/2010 9:40:24 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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No. The Eurotrash take pleasure in our discomfort. We are on our own here. As in so much else.


6 posted on 12/08/2010 9:43:00 AM PST by Godwin1
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“What would our wussy-asses do to him? Probably apologise and pay him a big settlement”

- Yes, OR the US could implement the same noble method of practicing justice in the field of espionage crimes it did during the wake of the Cold War:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEBVpy7n2pw


7 posted on 12/08/2010 9:45:54 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: The KG9 Kid
What are the charges in the US against Assange again?

Exactly my thought.

I'm amazed at how many people want Assange to be prosecuted, hung, shot, kidnapped, etc. without even specifying the US law that he is allegedly violating.

Another thing to consider: the Espionage Act has only been successfully used to prosecute an "original" act of espionage. The one attempt to prosecute someone for distributing the results of someone else's espionage, did not succeed.

8 posted on 12/08/2010 9:46:24 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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I think that the prosecution of Assange for his “sex crime” is just part of a larger strategy. Possibly to keep him under wraps until the justice department can draw up charges and work on extradition. His “sex crime” was having a condom break during consensual sex. Not really a crime that one would normally seek extradition for.


9 posted on 12/08/2010 9:46:24 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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According to Alex Jones on Coast to Coast last night, Assuage is the fall guy for Wiki leak’s exposure of political secrets. Apparently, the two women suing for rape, are both allegedly connected with the CIA. The tail is wagging the dog again?


10 posted on 12/08/2010 9:48:48 AM PST by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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For what crime? The Supreme Court has affirmed that government secrets can be published with no recourse against those who publish said documents.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 9:52:51 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Godwin1

“The Eurotrash take pleasure in our discomfort”

- No we “Eurotrash” take pleasure in setting traps for this villain and confronting him with the uncompromising machinery of the European justice.

Mr. Assange no longer constitutes a threat to America.

Thanks to true Intelligence.


12 posted on 12/08/2010 9:52:58 AM PST by WesternCulture
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For what crime?

Isn't making Hillary look bad enough?

13 posted on 12/08/2010 9:54:22 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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Well, we’d have her hairdresser for a capital crime by now, one would think....


14 posted on 12/08/2010 9:55:33 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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They don’t need to hand him over. Just make public the time and place of his release, and he’ll be taken care of.

OOPS, I forgot; wrong White House!


15 posted on 12/08/2010 9:59:14 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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The things that the American Left and left leaning press get in high dudgeon about are more or less routine in every other country in the world. Most countries monitor communications into and out of their territory, most enforce secrecy on diplomatic and military communications and severely punish leakers. I remember reading somewhere that the Paris gendarmerie are bemused when a French citizen demands to see a search warrant or asserts a "Constitutional right" to remain silent. Those are thoroughly Anglo-Saxon concepts, alien to tout le monde civilisé .

I remember seeing the Polis beat the skit out of a local drunk and disorderly Swedish yute in Liseberg Park in Gothenburg in 1973. If the cops in New York had done that to a black yute, there would have been riots.

16 posted on 12/08/2010 10:23:07 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
What are the charges in the US against Assange again?

Nothing that is legal. But that never stopped our communists leader from forcing something.

17 posted on 12/08/2010 10:26:24 AM PST by Logical me
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To: justlurking
Good points. We have known the exact content given to Wikileaks.......a year ago. There has been plenty of time for our Democrat Congress and Democrat President to pass a law that would in some way offer a future criminal charge.

They did nothing.

There is currently no charges available for the publisher of sensitive facts.

18 posted on 12/08/2010 12:30:34 PM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go Cowboys!)
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To: justlurking
"... I'm amazed at how many people want Assange to be prosecuted, hung, shot, kidnapped, etc. without even specifying the US law that he is allegedly violating."

Any time you see someone post this, ask them to clarify what charges warrant this.

19 posted on 12/08/2010 1:03:34 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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Personally I'm not too sure that the US would be successful if they asked for Assange to be extradited. There are two hurdles, as I see it, to extradition - first the requirement that what Assange supposedly has done is punishable by year or more in jail if the case was up in a Swedish court. The legal system was not really created with today's border-less society in mind, where information flows freely on the internet and information published in one country can immediately be read in another. One thing that comes to mind is the question of jurisdiction.

Secondly, the applicable law (Lag (1957:668) om utlämning för brott) gives the power to extradite foreign nationals to the cabinet, makinging it a political decision. Having a center-right cabinet takes us from "no way!" to "possible", but the general feeling I get is that the public would be against such an extradition, making it harder for the cabinet to do it.

From the American side they'll probably have problems putting together an indictment that can't be read as everyone publishing the leaks are violating the law. I can't see that the justice department would willingly open up that Pandora's box since that would mean that every news outlet in the US would be just as guilty as Wikileaks. They would have to show that only the "leaker" (i.e. Manning) and the first to publish (Wikileaks) are breaking the law. I think I've read that there has never been a successful case against someone publishing classified information in the US.

Don't take legal advice from me though - I'm just a software designer and has never taken a legal course in my life! :)

20 posted on 12/08/2010 1:24:07 PM PST by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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