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Assange 'not responsible for security breaches' says Kevin Rudd
The Guardian ^ | 12-8-10 | James Meikle

Posted on 12/08/2010 7:41:59 AM PST by FS11

Australia's foreign minister said the US government and whoever originally leaked 250,000 diplomatic cables should bear the responsibility for any security breaches – not the Australian WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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BO is the primary source of all WikiLeaks up to November 28, including all those BO WikiLeaks that put the lives of our Troops, Diplomats and Allies at risk in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and many other locations.
1 posted on 12/08/2010 7:42:01 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

BS


2 posted on 12/08/2010 7:48:30 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: FS11
Assange is still responsible for the deed ~ he's a "fence". He turns honest people into thieves.

That, all by itself, is a reason to dispose of him ~ and the Australian foreign minister for that matter.

The more to hang the merrier eh!

3 posted on 12/08/2010 7:48:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

He is despicable, but I’m not sure that he’s any more despicable that our very own press (e.g., the NYTimes)—that serves the same function as Wikileaks.


4 posted on 12/08/2010 7:51:28 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Col Frank Slade

“BS” ~ Col Frank Slade

July 26, 2010
Examining the WikiLeaks Story
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072610/content/01125108.member.html

RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, WikiLeaks did not “leak” anything. I don’t know who leaked it, but since there’s no mention of Obama and his administration, the regime, in any of these tens of thousands of documents, I’d have to say somebody in the regime leaked ‘em. But WikiLeaks did not leak ‘em. They just published ‘em. WikiLeaks is just a sponge, a useful idiot sitting there over in the UK and some disgruntled military guy in Afghanistan somehow has access to all of this and hands it over. ...

“.....Isn’t it amazing that 91,000 secret documents have been published and not one of them mentions the Obama regime? Not one! ......”

[snip]

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July 27, 2010
WikiLeaks Truth: Afghanistan is Democrats’ War and They Want Out
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072710/content/01125107.member.html

[snip]

RUSH: “....The irony is this is the war the Democrats wanted. Throughout the Iraq war they all said Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Afghanistan, gotta go to Afghanistan, that’s where you gotta go find Bin Laden. They wanted this war. This is the Democrats’ war. They want out of it. That’s why these leaks.

[snip]

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November 29, 2010
Rush Analyzes the WikiLeaks Waif
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112910/content/01125107.member.html

[snip]

RUSH: “....And, you know, Michael Ledeen has a piece today. He used to work for the State Department. When he got a job there, he called Henry Kissinger, and he said, “Give me the best piece of advice you can in the State Department.” He said, “Don’t write a memo unless you expect it to be leaked,” which is the point. All of this stuff comes out of the State Department ­ who’s run that for the last two years? This stuff is only three years old. All of this is coming out of the Clinton State Department. Is this really accidental? How is it that the WikiLeaks guy remains free?

Now, I’m sure you’ve seen the story that the United States government has just seized and shut down 75 domestic websites in America, 75 domains, because they’re guilty of copyright abuse or infringement or some such thing. Now, the WikiLeaks website’s international law, so we just can’t unilaterally shut the guy down, but, you know, back in the old days when men were men and countries were countries, this guy would die of lead poisoning from a bullet in the brain, and nobody would know who put it there! I mean, if our secrets were really being compromised like this, and if some people were really upset about this, and this is not... I mean, everybody knew this was coming, and this is not the first leak from Julian Assange of WikiLeaks. We’ve known he’s out there doing this stuff, we’ve known this stuff is coming, and yet, it keeps coming! ....”

[snip]

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December 1, 2010
WikiLeaker Wants Hillary to Resign
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_120110/content/01125110.member.html

[snip]

RUSH: “....Obama clearly is not acting upset about it because the perception is it hurts America, and you got enough diplomats saying, “This is very devastating to American foreign policy,” which is the Obama idea. So in that sense he even likes it. There’s Eric Holder out there, this incompetent guy threatening to bring him up on charges. Big deal. We know that will never happen. Holder is still trying to secure a trial for the grand sheik mastermind of 9/11.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2637720/posts?page=20#20

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Where’s the REALLY good stuff?

Rush Limbaugh Wants Julian Assange To Find the Really Good Stuff
Glynnis MacNicol | Dec. 7, 2010, 10:05 AM | 440 |
http://www.businessinsider.com/rush-limbaugh-wants-julian-assange-to-find-obamas-birth-certificate-2010-12

If WikiLeaks TMZ ever becomes a reality maybe Rush could have his own segment. From yesterday’s radio show:

“Where are the WikiLeaks documents to prove 9/11 was inside job by George Bush and Dick Cheney? Let me ask you liberals, where are these cables?

“Where are the documents to prove Bush intentionally lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in order to invade the country?

Where is the WikiLeaks document, the State Department cable, whatever, that [Karl] Rove leaked Valerie Plame’s name to the media?

Where’s all this good stuff? ...

“Where are the WikiLeaks cables proving that the CIA invented AIDS? Where is Obama’s birth certificate? Where’s the real good stuff?

And how about all the hundreds of other left-wing lies we’ve been hearing about for years?

[Is] WikiLeaks covering up for the United States?”

Be careful what you wish for. Assange likes the limelight enough I wouldn’t put a special WikiLeaks Conspiracy Theory task force beyond him.

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Sunday, December 05, 2010
Obama’s Power Madness: State Department Warns Columbia University Students: DO NOT Discuss WikiLeaks On Facebook, Twitter

Obama knew of the WikiLeak dump (he sanctioned the last two), and did nothing, virtually assuring the release of the documents and its incalcuable damage to our great nation.

And the media’s silence on this borders on criminal negligence. As one Puff Ho-ster opines, they are “so in the tank for Obama that they drowned. That’s the only explanation I can come up with for their silence.”
Why is Obama getting a free pass over WikiLeaks?

Now check this out. Where does he think he is? Arabia? And who the hell does Obama think he is, the ..caliph? Over at the Puff Ho:

State Department To Columbia University Students: DO NOT Discuss WikiLeaks On Facebook, Twitter

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs this week.

An email from SIPA’s Office of Career Services went out Tuesday afternoon with a caution from the official, an alumnus of the school. Students who will be applying for jobs in the federal government could jeopardize their prospects by posting links to WikiLeaks online, or even by discussing the leaked documents on social networking sites, the official was quoted as saying.

“[The alumnus] recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter,” the Office of Career Services advised students. “Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.”

While the massive disclosure of once-classified documents detailing some of the nation’s most tightly-guarded secrets has inflamed allies and enemies alike, the move by the State Department represents a new front in the administration’s campaign against unauthorized leaks.

Philip J. Crowley, spokesman for the State Department, denied in an email message any federal involvement:

This is not true. We have instructed State Department employees not to access the WikiLeaks site and download posted documents using an unclassified network since these documents are still classified. We condemn what Mr. Assange is doing, but have given no advice to anyone beyond the State Department to my knowledge.

When asked why Columbia ­ which confirmed to the New York Times earlier today that an email had been sent from its offices ­ would have sent the message, Crowley said, “If an employee of the State Department sent such an email, it does not represent a formal policy position.”
[...]

Now, however, it appears the federal government has moved beyond staunching the flow of leaked information, to suppressing even the very mention of WikiLeaks online by prospective employees.

“They seem to be unable to make the distinction between having an opinion and having a contractual obligation to keep a secret,” said Hugh Sansom, a masters student from New York.

Students were taken aback by the email, said Sansom, who described his non-American classmates — nearly half of this year’s incoming class at Columbia speaks a native language other than English — as “amused and surprised.”

By late in the week, word of the email had reached the blogosphere.

“Seems the ambitious young things studying IR and considering a foreign service careers are being warned not to touch Cablegate,” wrote Issandr El Amrani at The Arabist. A comment posted to that story said that Georgetown University had been similarly put on notice.

Stephen D. Biddle, a professor at the school, said that the email amounted to counseling on the university’s part.

“It strikes me as entirely plausible that some government officials would take a dim view of people appearing to use WikiLeaks material for professional gain,” Biddle said.

But as for commenting on the leaked information on Facebook or Twitter, Biddle acknowledged, “once it’s out, it’s out.”

The email, obtained by The Huffington Post, is published in full:

From: Office of Career Services
Date: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Subject: Wikileaks - Advice from an alum
To: “Office of Career Services (OCS)”

Hi students,

We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.

The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.

Regards,
Office of Career Services


5 posted on 12/08/2010 7:57:51 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( Sarah Palin / Marco Rubio - a "can't lose" ticket for 2012..)
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To: Col Frank Slade; himno hero; The Comedian; Quix; Whenifhow; houeto; null and void; Squantos; ...

BS

2 posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:48:30 AM by Col Frank Slade


Could you elaborate on your terse cryptic comment? Do you mean, Big Sis, Bullsh*te, or Big Sis is full of Bullshite?

I agree with the latter.


6 posted on 12/08/2010 8:00:23 AM PST by FS11
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To: muawiyah
He turns honest people into thieves.

No he doesn't.

7 posted on 12/08/2010 8:01:47 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: WayneS

Sure he does. The fact that you can’t see that suggests you need some serious moral counseling by competent authorities ~ may I recommend watching “Judgment at Nuremberg” first ~ excellent way to start a moral education.


8 posted on 12/08/2010 8:04:05 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: FS11

“Australia’s foreign minister said the US government and whoever originally leaked 250,000 diplomatic cables should bear the responsibility for any security breaches”

Frequently the truth hurts, and the question remains:

Why is the little twirp that STOLE this information still breathing air? Why is he still above ground?

Yes, the person that “fences” stolen items is guilty - but it is the thief that started the process!


9 posted on 12/08/2010 8:05:59 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: 9YearLurker
Senator Lieberman has brought up the prospect of prosecuting the staff, management and owners of the NYT, then, presumably, burning their building to the ground.

Advice to tenants, LEAVE NOW.

10 posted on 12/08/2010 8:05:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You do NOT think each individual is responsible for his OWN actions?

You think one individual can MAKE another individual become dishonest?

Maybe it is YOU who “need some serious moral counseling by competent authorities”.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 8:09:08 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: FS11

She’s definately full of BS.


12 posted on 12/08/2010 8:09:51 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Col Frank Slade

in my opinion...
..current policy from the white house.....

I am fearful that Obama will continue on through the Wicked Gate without impeachment....
This is all deliberate, maliciously intended and purposeful in Obamas nefarious agenda of bringing down the west. Take down America, the leader, and the rest follows. Assange is just a little player like Rosa Brooks but cumulatively they have their effect. For Asssange? Obama eased his path. Much like Obama is easing the path for the OIC based UN to come into the US to hunt “War Criminals”.

Obama , culturally never was an American as he carries many chips on his shoulder and as we see from his old culture at many levels. He feels for his Kenyan identity, he feels for his muslim identity, and he feels his angst against white and America....

On top of it, Obama is a Muslim wanabe or Wahabe, I call him a ghazi.

“One of the prettiest sounds on earth” is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset.
Barack Hussein Obama as quoted by Nicholas D. Kristof in the New York Times - March 6, 2007

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

• His biological father was a Muslim.
http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/?title=Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.&src=abop&qpvt=barack+obama+seniot&q=barack+obama+senior&fwd=1

• Because his biological father was a Muslim the Islam world thinks he is a Muslim.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/08/obama_is_a_muslim_18_24_or.html?hpid=topnews
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• His stepfather was a Muslim.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• As a child Barry was enrolled in school as a Muslim in Jakarta Indonesia. An Indonesian Madrasa.
• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html
http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/

• Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer, which includes a vow of fidelity to Islam, in flawless Arabic on a radio program. - Nikolos Kristoff, NYTs, 3-06-07 (***this one is a gottcha moment***)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679

• On that same program he said he thinks the call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth.”
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

• Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama does not give gifts on Christmas.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12035.html

• Obama doesn’t celebrate his birthday.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/a-tough-birthday-for-obama/

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

• “The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim,” said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Nile TV.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/bombshell-egyptian-foreign-minister-ahmed-aboul-gheit-says-on-egyptian-tv-%e2%80%9cthe-american-president-told-me-in-confidence-that-he-is-still-a-muslim-%e2%80%9d/
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=166905

• Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html

• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

All this brings on a interesting question... how can America have any struggle against Islam, or protect herself with the most powerful muslim in the world sitting in the White House?

Be wary, wary aware ....and wary, wary afraid...get prepared for more creeping sharia...more than what is coming out of the White House today


13 posted on 12/08/2010 8:14:23 AM PST by himno hero
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To: muawiyah
"The more to hang the merrier eh!"

Yep!

"You're absolutely right about the enemy within." ~ Dr. Laurie Mylroie - 2003

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How the CIA and the State Department Tried to Stop the War on Terror

bttt

14 posted on 12/08/2010 8:14:57 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( Sarah Palin / Marco Rubio - a "can't lose" ticket for 2012..)
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To: I cannot think of a name

“Australia’s foreign minister said the US government and whoever originally leaked 250,000 diplomatic cables should bear the responsibility for any security breaches”

Frequently the truth hurts, and the question remains:

Why is the little twirp that STOLE this information still breathing air? Why is he still above ground?

Yes, the person that “fences” stolen items is guilty - but it is the thief that started the process!

9 posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:05:59 AM by I cannot think of a name


BO always protects his Terrorist Pals.

BO will probably have Holder get Manning acquitted of all charges at his “trial” just like Holder got BO’s Terrorist Pal who murdered Americans in the Embassy Bombings acquitte of 284 charges at his “trial.”


15 posted on 12/08/2010 8:18:16 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

IMO and the opinion of many, Big Sis and her attempt to create her own police state is the problem! The new House must investigate the policies of Big Sis and and the DOJ. Oversight and exposure is way past due.


16 posted on 12/08/2010 8:22:42 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: WayneS
First rule, men do not live in isolation.

As early Christian hermits discovered, that's a dead end Fur Shur.

The trick is you cannot use the issue of "individual responsibility" to justify destructive behavior by someone else.

17 posted on 12/08/2010 8:26:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: I cannot think of a name
BS, Assange knew he was leaking classified documents and he did it to hurt the USA and he is every bit as guilty as manning and whoever else leaked these documents and I am not believing Manning did all this by himself. I believe this has Obama’s and Hillary's prints all over it. Assange is not some stumbling innocent in all this and his motives are not pure.

Would the Australian Prime Minister feel the same if it was Australian classified docs leaked to the world by a US citizen? I doubt that.

18 posted on 12/08/2010 8:36:26 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: ExTexasRedhead

IMO and the opinion of many, Big Sis and her attempt to create her own police state is the problem! The new House must investigate the policies of Big Sis and and the DOJ. Oversight and exposure is way past due.

16 posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:22:42 AM by ExTexasRedhead


Amen! Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict, prosecute and convict BO, Big Sis and all of their local co-conspirators.

Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html


19 posted on 12/08/2010 8:36:55 AM PST by FS11
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To: Americanexpat

Please explain what part of this question is BS -

“Why is the little twirp that STOLE this information still breathing air? Why is he still above ground?”

He’s in our custody. He’s an American citizen. He should be dead!

I don’t care if Assange is the next one in the hole - but we ought to be taking care of our business first.


20 posted on 12/08/2010 8:59:47 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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