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To: GulchBound
I remember when the US used to distribute these Chieu Hoi passes so the VC and NVA could surrender to us. Several times we were into some pretty heavy combat and when these bastards ran out of ammo they would throw down their weapons and wave these passes and shout “Chie Hoi” it didn't do them any good, we shot em anyway.

The time to claim Cheu Hoi status was before the shooting started not kill our friends until you ran out of ammo then surrender. After ten years of Iraq and Afghanistan Americans still cannot get through their heads that in war you kill the enemy and destroy their means of making war.

28 posted on 12/07/2010 11:34:50 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Americanexpat

I think our soldiers in the field get this point clearly. They should be there to break things and kill people. Not kiss *sses and take names. If our soldiers risk themselves to take prisoners, you don’t turn the prisoners back over to the enemy unless you achieve a worthwhile objective by doing so (eg. tracking them back to their buddies so you can take out the whole steaming pile).

The liberal SOBs pulling the strings have other ideas. They think you can wage a selective war, and then your target will become your friend. Bullsh*t. Carrying on in this way is costing the lives of thousands of fine young soldiers. If liberal leadership doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to allow our soldiers to fight to win, perhaps the leadership should experience the environment first hand for an extended period.

If you need to start a war, then work toward finishing it as effectively and efficiently as possible. If you aren’t there to win the d*mn thing, don’t go in the first place or get the hell out. And releasing captured enemy so he can shoot at you again is not an effective means of winning.

This enemy will NEVER be your friend. Some elements of that society will appear to cooperate with you where they have to. They will gain some personal benefit, and some good intel in the process. They will steal from you, and stab you in the back the first chance they get. And when you ultimately get fed up and leave, they will return to what they have been doing for thousands of years.

Somebody needs to decide to either own the battlefield or leave it. Wandering aimlessly is killing the wrong people.


51 posted on 12/07/2010 6:33:06 PM PST by GulchBound (Who owns you?)
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To: Americanexpat

This whole mideast gig was over the day we let them design their NEW CONSTITUTION, with the “NO LAW SHALL CONTRACDICT ISLAM” part in it.

When I saw that, I said why build up another country? So we can have another Saudi Arabia? or another Iran?. Shhhhhhhhite.


57 posted on 12/07/2010 8:20:02 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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