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To: BiggieLittle; IoCaster; Darksheare
He disobeyed God by spilling his seed. He needed a lecture from Christine to cut it out.

I might be flogging a dead horse; but I'll post the entire passage, Genesis 38:6-26. Although I'm really pulling for your edification in Biblical literacy; I don't intend to pound away at this subject all night and risk looking like a great big jerk. Even though I suspect you're just yanking our chains, I hope that if you saw farmer jack trapped on the barn roof, you'd help farmer Jack off.

Genesis 38:6-26

Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death.

Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also.

Judah then said to his daughter-in-law Tamar, “Live as a widow in your father’s household until my son Shelah grows up.” For he thought, “He may die too, just like his brothers.” So Tamar went to live in her father’s household.

After a long time Judah’s wife, the daughter of Shua, died. When Judah had recovered from his grief, he went up to Timnah, to the men who were shearing his sheep, and his friend Hirah the Adullamite went with him.

When Tamar was told, “Your father-in-law is on his way to Timnah to shear his sheep,” she took off her widow’s clothes, covered herself with a veil to disguise herself, and then sat down at the entrance to Enaim, which is on the road to Timnah. For she saw that, though Shelah had now grown up, she had not been given to him as his wife.

When Judah saw her, he thought she was a prostitute, for she had covered her face. Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by the roadside and said, “Come now, let me sleep with you.”

“And what will you give me to sleep with you?” she asked.

“I’ll send you a young goat from my flock,” he said.

“Will you give me something as a pledge until you send it?” she asked.

He said, “What pledge should I give you?”

“Your seal and its cord, and the staff in your hand,” she answered. So he gave them to her and slept with her, and she became pregnant by him. After she left, she took off her veil and put on her widow’s clothes again.

Meanwhile Judah sent the young goat by his friend the Adullamite in order to get his pledge back from the woman, but he did not find her. He asked the men who lived there, “Where is the shrine prostitute who was beside the road at Enaim?”

“There hasn’t been any shrine prostitute here,” they said.

So he went back to Judah and said, “I didn’t find her. Besides, the men who lived there said, ‘There hasn’t been any shrine prostitute here.’”

Then Judah said, “Let her keep what she has, or we will become a laughingstock. After all, I did send her this young goat, but you didn’t find her.”

About three months later Judah was told, “Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant.”

Judah said, “Bring her out and have her burned to death!”

As she was being brought out, she sent a message to her father-in-law. “I am pregnant by the man who owns these,” she said. And she added, “See if you recognize whose seal and cord and staff these are.”

Judah recognized them and said, “She is more righteous than I, since I wouldn’t give her to my son Shelah.” And he did not sleep with her again.

74 posted on 12/05/2010 4:34:04 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
I might be flogging a dead horse;

I am always in favor of studying the Bible, but since Christine mentioned ONE TIME in an interview in 1996 on MTV what the Christian Church has taught for 2,000 years, and never mentioned it again in the last 14 years, I think it is a bit off the target.

I do agree that Onan was punished for DISOBEDIENCE to God and the morality of his culture. The Bible does not support the idea that spilling seed is a sin.

However, Jesus explicitly said, point blank, what Christine mentioned in passing 14 years ago -- ONE TIME: That to lust after someone is the same as committing adultery in your heart. And the Church has taught that it is unrealistic to masturbate without lust.

But since even Christine was simply making an off-hand comment IN SUPPORT OF what the youth pastor in a group had taught, and has never considered it remotely important herself, it is a bit off track.
77 posted on 12/05/2010 4:49:04 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MeetChristineODonnell.com)
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