Remember that those 13 uncaptioned still shots on the cbs local website so often used as "proof" here are scrupulously NOT attributed to Gil Leyvas, but only presented in a way to suggest it. They may or may not be from Leyvas' original video, and in a way, that's beside the point: the problem with them, and the reason I ignore the photos when they're shoved at me as "proof" of an eastbound airliner, is because I cannot know how long the plume they show has been hanging there in the sky. Again, that's the advantage of watching Leyvas' video -- you can see the time it took to lay down the amount of plume that you see in the shot.
Those 13 uncaptioned, vaguelly-attributed still shots on the cbs site may very well be showing what is left of the plume long after the video was shot, before it became dark, and after the smoke in the plume had dissippated and been scattered by the winds. So again, unless you've worked closely with missiles and know how plumes from solid-fuel propelled missiles differ in appearance from condensation trails (I don't), a still shot isn't going to tell you much except the direction of the sun hitting the plume or contrail, whichever it is you're looking at.
Go outside at sunset. Study how the sun illuminates the bottoms and sides of the clouds, and if there are any contrails, study that as well. Think in terms of three dimensions, picture what's really happening in the three dimensional world of sun lighting the clouds and contrails. Then go watch the video. We are lay people here for the most part, and so we're more limited in what we can derive from the photos. I expect that's why true missileers (Air Force generals, Jane's editor, countless FReepers who are current military or veterans) came out so quickly and confidently with pronouncements: "This was a missile."
But even us lay people have enough info at hand to figure it out. Go out and study the lighting on the clouds and contrails at sunset yourself. YOURSELF. Then watch the video. You'll get that it shows a plume heading north-west against a setting sun. You have, in your own noggin, all the "expertise" you need.
Really? Please explain how.
"But even us lay people have enough info at hand to figure it out. Go out and study the lighting on the clouds and contrails at sunset yourself. YOURSELF. Then watch the video. You'll get that it shows a plume heading north-west against a setting sun. You have, in your own noggin, all the "expertise" you need."
Oh yeah. It's always a good idea to ignore all other facts and concentrate only on what your eyes are telling your noggin. That will never fail you...
Another day, and still zero evidence from the missile crowd.
Planning on sharing any data?
The conspiracy theorist crowd, same old thing. They make a claim, and ask other s to disprove it, rather than prove their nonsense.
Where is your proof?