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To: plain talk

Good one! There are a lot of imaginations running wild here, and it’s a hoot.

Never thought that I would live to see so many fainters on FR. Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq? (At HQ even, not talking about patrolling.)


28 posted on 11/15/2010 4:40:25 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: qwertypie

Uh yeah I do. however most people aren’t in the military.

Interesting to see you support turning America into a military state.


34 posted on 11/15/2010 4:46:40 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: qwertypie

So what you’re saying is we should accept a Marxist police state because it will prove we would be able to “make it in the military in Iraq?”

You are below clueless.


40 posted on 11/15/2010 4:50:36 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: qwertypie
Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq?

What does that have to do with being willing to be treated like cattle for a service you pay good money for in the name of PC?

43 posted on 11/15/2010 4:51:16 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: qwertypie

You’ve just shown yourself to thousands here in your own words why you don’t get it.

This is not Iraq, TSA is not military trying to stabilize a country full of terrorists actually armed and shooting at them. You equate us citizen air passengers to foreigners we have no idea if they are hostile or not as we can’t speak their language, etc.

Just like the prior guy who didn’t get it because he works in a prison and says it’s no big deal. We aren’t prisoners either and are offended at being treated that way.

If you get pulled for special screening you have no way to say no to it, you can’t say “I will go through standard screening”, you either have to get beamed and a naked image of you generated (which we now know there have been thousands of said images stored by TSA), or sexually assaulted. Or you have to get your ticket refunded, you can’t just go back to standard screening. If there was a problem in standard screening you’d get looked at more closely anyway, that’s already procedure.

If they gave people that option I wouldn’t have a problem with it, because folks like you won’t mind getting xrayed or felt up because after all, being groped makes you safer.


112 posted on 11/15/2010 5:54:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: qwertypie

IBTZ! Troll boy is back!


178 posted on 11/15/2010 8:36:53 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: qwertypie
Never thought that I would live to see so many fainters on FR. Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq? (At HQ even, not talking about patrolling.)

I've an idea there won't be many of our troops that will meekly submit to this molestation.

What are you saying, anyway? That it's bravery to quietly submit to being molested?

I have family that have gone through the worst of the fighting in Afghanistan - he and his unit have made a name for themselves - one of them is the first living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor since the Vietnam War.

I cannot picture them meekly standing in the airport while some cretin feels them up.

You make no sense. You're kind of thinking is part of the problem.

217 posted on 11/16/2010 12:31:46 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: qwertypie

“Never thought that I would live to see so many fainters on FR. Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq? (At HQ even, not talking about patrolling.)”

I don’t agree with these new TSA policies myself, and I’m finishing up my tour in Afghanistan where I’ve regularly patrolled with Marine infantry, Army infantry, and a little with SF and have been in combat. I personally think that rather than buying all these scanners, they should use that money to invest in explosives detecting dogs and training good handlers to sniff everybody in place of these current invasive procedures. It’s quick, effective, and doesn’t bombard people with unnecessary ionized radiation. Dog handling is my job in the military and I am a big believer in utilizing dogs in place of needless police state tactics. Save the invasive procedures for genuinely suspicious personnel and those who fit the normal jihadist profile. While yes, us military personnel are accustomed to this and don’t see it as being a big deal, it has no place in regular society in a nation that’s supposed to be the hallmark of personal freedom. Just my 2 cents.


225 posted on 11/16/2010 4:00:18 AM PST by maddogmarine (Interesting times we live in. Be prepared but don't live in fear.)
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To: qwertypie
Good one! There are a lot of imaginations running wild here, and it’s a hoot.

Never thought that I would live to see so many fainters on FR. Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq? (At HQ even, not talking about patrolling.)


What does serving in the military have to do with current TSA policies? The TSA also refused to allow the non-compliant traveler to leave, and threatened him with hefty fines....all because he refused the invasive pat-down or body scan. At that point, he was no more dangerous than I would be walking into an airport terminal. In fact, he would cause less damage in a hallway between security and the terminal, should he have been a suicide bomber.

Should I have to submit to these procedures because I walk into a terminal to meet a loved one? Maybe you think so, I do not. What's next.....a shopping mall? That's a public place where a suicide bomber could do a lot of damage.

At what point does the fourth ammendment become null and void? How about the fifth? He was threatened with loss of liberty when they refused to let him leave the airport. He finally decided to leave, but was threatened with a civil suit. How does this not violate his constitutional rights?

This man did everyone a favor. I find it refreshing when someone stands up for their constitutional rights instead of meekly submitting to the next grab at personal liberty.
236 posted on 11/16/2010 6:24:47 AM PST by Girlene
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To: qwertypie
Never thought that I would live to see so many fainters on FR. Do you think that they would have ever been able to make it in the military in Iraq?

Really? What were you doing when I was in the military (Infantry) in Iraq? Making an imbecile out of yourself on internet forums?

Regardless of military service, some of us beleive it's wrong to be forced into being irradiated, groped and viewed virtually naked by TSA trained monkeys.

I'm not sure what my fighting a war has to do with any of that.

247 posted on 11/16/2010 7:48:29 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: qwertypie

I have had read the posts to you giving you allot of flak for your personal view on pat downs.

We don’t fly for medical reasons.

But I would like to give my 2cents.

IMO the pat downs are crossing the boundaries of human decency, but not everyone feels that they are.

IMO Calling the pat down sexual assault is way over PC.

If the TSA workers were inserting fingers/tools into vaginas/anus’ or masterbating the passengers without their consent then yeah that is sexual assault.

I think the pat downs should stop.

Anyone with common sense knows if a group wants to terrorize/kill they will find a way.


262 posted on 11/16/2010 12:28:10 PM PST by Global2010
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