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To: steveab
“This election was not a mandate for the Republican Party, nor was it a mandate to act on any social issue.”

Social issues pale beside the financial threat to the Republic as we knew it. The very concept of America is at risk with this debt. If we cannot fix it, all the social issues will not matter a whit.

340 posted on 11/15/2010 4:17:15 AM PST by Rapscallion (The contradictions of Obama's pathology.)
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To: Rapscallion

You’ve got it exactly backwards. The loss of respect in law and practice for the core moral values of this country is the disease.

The money troubles, the problem with the rise of an overbearing all-powerful state, the loss of liberty, are a symptom of that disease.


342 posted on 11/15/2010 4:27:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Here it is in black and white: The pinkos went green 'cause they're too yellow to admit they're red.)
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To: Rapscallion
The very concept of America is at risk with this debt. If we cannot fix it

What nonsense!

The politics of debt, of gold and silver, of lender and borrower, was the #2 issue in American politics until 1865, and was #1 after that until 1913.

The debt is going to be renounced, and a new monetary unit created. Savings will be liquidated, and debts will be erased.

As long as people are allowed to vote, that outcome is foreordained. No other outcome is even possible any more.

This - the collapse of centrally regulated money systems - has happened before, many times.

It has happened in Germany, it has happened in France. It has happened in Italy.

It happens in shithole countries all the time.

It even happened in Richmond, VA in 1865.

It is remarkable to me how much rhetoric around here, including yours, ascribes "the end of the world", "the end of America" to this entirely predictable event. You say "social issues won't matter a whit" after the collapse of the dollar and the Fed, when in fact they will matter more, much more.

It is our fear of what is to come, what must come, that has led to "to big to fail", to TARP, to GM, and to the upcoming rescues of B of A and the other money center banks. F*** 'em.

We elect a Congress. That Congress has the power to coin money, and regulate its value.

The sooner the crisis reaches its apex, the sooner we can start over. "The concept of America" is only at risk if we keep trying to save what is already lost.

Burn, baby, burn.

350 posted on 11/15/2010 4:39:39 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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