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To: steveab

First of all, “gay” means happy and carefree.

Homosexual means a practitioner of same sex sodomy (although that itself is a term invented by a sodomy practitioner to connote a sense of special community).

Second, since anyone who practices same sex sodomy - aka a homosexual - is mentally ill and of bad character, there should be some curtailments of opportunities such as serving in the military that should not be open to them. But serving in the military, or for example teaching in public school, are not Constitutional rights, and therefore there is no infringement on their Constitutional rights in disallowing them from such (or other) opportunities.

As far as Constitutional rights, I can’t think of any that would not accrue to practitioners of same sex sodomy - they have the right to free speech, association, religious expression, owning fire arms, the right to a jury trial, not have soldiers quartered in their homes, the protection from unlawful search and seizure, and so on.


234 posted on 11/14/2010 8:10:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; steveab; wagglebee; BykrBayb; trisham; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW
Second, since anyone who practices same sex sodomy - aka a homosexual - is mentally ill and of bad character, there should be some curtailments of opportunities such as serving in the military that should not be open to them. But serving in the military, or for example teaching in public school, are not Constitutional rights, and therefore there is no infringement on their Constitutional rights in disallowing them from such (or other) opportunities.

As far as Constitutional rights, I can’t think of any that would not accrue to practitioners of same sex sodomy - they have the right to free speech, association, religious expression, owning fire arms, the right to a jury trial, not have soldiers quartered in their homes, the protection from unlawful search and seizure, and so on.

That bears repeating.

The rights guaranteed us in the Constitution do not equate to giving people the *right* to do whatever they fancy regardless of he consequences or impact on society.

The right to *life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness* is not license to hold the rest of society hostage to whatever behavior one person happens to feel like engaging in at the moment without regard to it's impact on others around him.

There is an obligation for anyone who wants to be part of society to be willing to work with others to make that society safe and productive and free. And, strange as it may sound, that includes sometimes restricting what one wants to do for the benefit of others. Libertarians are typically blind to this aspect of it. Or unwilling to acknowledge it.

The problem comes in when people refuse to voluntarily restrict their behavior out of courtesy for others. The others generally don't like being held hostage to the demands of one aberrant individual, and so the government ends up stepping in to impose external controls on that person's behavior.

Ironic as it ends up being, those who hold the libertarian position of unbridled license for all to do whatever they please without restriction or fear of consequences, are the very ones the most responsible for the INCREASE in government interference in people's personal lives, as the government is called on by the general populace to protect them from those who will not cooperate with others in society.

245 posted on 11/14/2010 8:34:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: little jeremiah

‘First of all, “gay” means happy and carefree.’
The only two homosexual guys I know call them self gays. Why? I don’t know. I don’t how they vote or if they vote. I do know they ain’t for a nanny state. They think same sex marriage is a joke. I don’t know their view on abortion. But I can paint all homosexual as communist or pro abortion without facts. And no I don’t agree with their life style, it’s a dying breed.


249 posted on 11/14/2010 8:45:32 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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