[TigersEye]

Earlier, at 5:19, Rick Warren takes this image from his 10th floor balcony in Long Beach

He took several more photos, at different zoom levels, but all from the same position. You can clearly see the plane as it stops leaving a contrail.

Those two photos are clearly NOT taken from the same location OR the clouds moved quite a bit from one shot to the next. If the cloud moved a lot why didn't the vehicle leaving the contrail move significantly as well?

The second pic is obviously taken a little later than the first as the lighting of the sunset shows. But the vehicle is in the same approximate position and a good deal of the contrail has disappeared. The answer is simple. The vehicle is traveling away from the photographer to the west at a severe angle as the photographer thought. Even a slow moving aircraft would have moved significantly more in the frame if it were coming towards the photographer to the east. As both UPS and flight 808 were supposed to be doing.

[TXnMA]

"Those two photos are clearly NOT taken from the same location OR the clouds moved quite a bit from one shot to the next. If the cloud moved a lot why didn't the vehicle leaving the contrail move significantly as well?"

On the "silly" contrailscience.com website, look at the composite of four of those frames. EVERYTHING (except ground objects) was moving toward the left. (Can you say, "W - I - N - D" ?)

Also, use your (appropriate adjective) powers of observation and notice that the two photos you posted were at two different zoom magnifications. Think that might affect your conclusions? The creator of the composite noticed the difference and compensated for it. ("Silly" folks do things like that instead of making dumb@SS statements like yours above.)

Then follow the lead in my #738...